CASC-OR 2007 Mobil 1 Autoslalom Championship Series Schedule

[tanney]

The schedule is now SET for the 2007 season. There are six events with four counting towards the Series.

CASC-OR 2007 Mobil 1 Ontario Provincial Autoslalom Championship Series Schedule

April 1 - Solo Ontario Open House - CSC Racing, Newmarket
April 28-29 - CASC-OR Autoslalom School – SPDA – BCS&E, Brampton
May 12 – Reserved for a non championship community awareness event – Details to follow
May 13 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #1 - CASC-OR - Mohawk Race Track, Milton
June 16 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #2 - HADA – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
June 17 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #3 - COMP – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
July 22 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #4 - WOSCA – Hiawatha Horse Park, Sarnia
September 15 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #5 - SPDA – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated)
September 16 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - Event #6 - St. Lac. – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated)

Legend
CASC-OR - Canadian Automobile Sports Clubs - Ontario Region
COMP – Competition Corvette Club
HADA – HADA Motorsport Club
SPDA - Subaru Performance Driving Association
St. Lac. - St Lawrence Auto Club
WOSCA - Western Ontario Sports Cars Association

[JoeT]

Hi Wes,

The BARC Event in Mosport is indicated "Lower Paddock". Where is that in Mosport? I'm assuming it's not the DDT Skid pad... Is it the paddock area shown at the bottom of the map below?

Thanks for putting up the schedule, looks great, I'll be able to play with my kidlettes this year.. woohoo..

http://www.mosport.com/graphics/trackmap.gif

[gatherer]

it's the paddock that was paved at the big track if I'm not mistaken...

hmmm I might have to re-think not competing this year .. the commitment time is very low.

[Marsh]

July 22nd makes us the LAST regio.. er uh I mean provincial!?!? :eek:

Oh well at least there might be a few people who actually need the points and will show up.

[thekid]

Joe that map you posted is out of date, but there is a huge piece of new pavement that is the "lower paddock", I suspect that is what they're planning to use.

Incidentally, the lower paddock is located above the current paddock in that map you posted.

[fritZman]

Good job Wes.

Two weekends away plus one day trip covers 5 of 6 events, and all before July! Sweet.

With a schedule like that, I plan participate in the series this year. :)

[Doug Phillips]

Great news, I was just wondering how things were shaping up.

Wes, any indication of when the rulebook will be out?

Were the National rules planned to be released by now? Do you know the status?

[soloZ]

The new lowest paddock looks like some real nice pavement, the Barc people were going to have a autocross there last year when they had there solo1 events at the track but there was a lack of interest. I can't wait to get back to Picton and see whats what, hopefully two really nice flowing open courses.

[13inches]

Lol....Joe posted an upside down map! The north end of the track is at the bottom of the map....so the new "lower" paddock is actually above the paddock in the picture. Clear as mud!

Hope that helps!

[JoeT]

Lol....Joe posted an upside down map! The north end of the track is at the bottom of the map....so the new "lower" paddock is actually above the paddock in the picture. Clear as mud!

Hope that helps!

Ooops... Let me call Mosport immediately to take that off their web site.. LOL

Great to hear there's a new stretch of pavement there, any idea of size, compared to DDT, or Bronte?

Thankie

[89Player's]

I would say the Mosport paddock is at least as big as Bronte, probably a little bigger, and smooth(at least it was). It will make an excellent track.
One question I did have, however, is where are the regional racers who use that paddock supposed to pit? I guess we can use the secondary paddock in corner 1, but I think we have gotten spoiled by that nice clean asphalt!
I hope everyone enjoys the weekend, it sounds like BARC plans on a great show.

[Slowpoke]

Hi Wes,
Is it the paddock area shown at the bottom of the map below?
It's where "general camping" is on your South is Up map. ;-)

This photo has the "middle paddock" in the foreground, with the new lower paddock in the distance with all the parking.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/themadchigga/BMW%20events/Bimmercruise%20-%20Mosport/DSC00105.jpg

This might give you a better idea:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/themadchigga/BMW%20events/Bimmercruise%20-%20Mosport/DSC00137.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/themadchigga/BMW%20events/Bimmercruise%20-%20Mosport/DSC00125.jpg

... and more photos. (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2816494)

[JoeT]

Nice.. really nice.

[Doug Phillips]

Nice.. really nice.


Quit touching yourself! :p

[JoeT]

Quit touching yourself! :p

Stalker!

[bbqman]

Weird that there is no MCO event on the Provincials.....I guess the May 12/13th date may work, if that is the plan, as the Senators won't make the Finals....

[Marsh]

MCO people on the phone at the CASC meeting in November said they would gladly forgo holding an event in order to see fewer events in 2007.

[fritZman]

Weird that there is no MCO event on the Provincials.....I guess the May 12/13th date may work, if that is the plan, as the Senators won't make the Finals....

Hey! Save the 'dissing for the team that will inevitably miss the playoffs AGAIN, the Leafs.

From what I can tell, MCO members are fine with skipping a Provincial as our full series will still run regardless. Better yet, there will be no conflict with the Provincial dates so we can effectively do both series.

As a result of Wes's (and other board member's) hard work, I would expect to see a few more MCO members attending the Provincial series for '07.

[bbqman]

I understand now. Too bad however.

[13inches]

IIRC, MCO was willing to help another club out if they wished to host a Provincial event at Scotiabank Place.

Time to step up CADL! ;)

[finboy]

I understand now. Too bad however.


Carlsan.... word on the street

the peeps are looking forward to the 2007 Interprovincial Cup


also MCO is working on their club events and joint events with CADL..

plus I believe they're planning to schedule their events so none of them conflict with the regional schedule

and yes.. MCO is still interested in competition in Ontario, and I believe Chuck
made it clear that we'd assist any club to host a Regional event at the Corel center

there is an eastern event scheduled with st.lac/SPDA so there will be some eastern representation then

[13inches]

regional schedule

Corel center


Resistant to change, are we?

[bbqman]

Actually the CADL has been the leading club on the East coast over the past 10 years in hosting big ass events.
When they step up, they expect other clubs to follow suit.

Don't worry though, if MCO participates the Inter Provincial event again, you can be assured it will be THE event to be at on the east coast in 2007, and I am sure the CADL will co host.

[finboy]

heck mang...

if you or another CADL brotha can post CADL events

i'm sure there will be more than a few that will show up





"if you build it... they will come"

[bbqman]

we are working on the schedule...soon soon.....

[tanney]

The schedule, unfortunately, has been altered. The BARC Mosport date is off the schedule due to Mosport not wanting the lower paddock used.

Very unfortunate, but we will see if BARC can still host an event this year. Stay tuned....

[JoeT]

Actually the CADL has been the leading club on the East coast over the past 10 years in hosting big ass events.
When they step up, they expect other clubs to follow suit.



Bwahahahahahahhaa

Slalom at Slemon = "Big Ass Event", always in the long weekend in August
PEI (Slemon) = East Coast

CADL = Excellent Quebec Events
Interprovincial Challenge = MCO + CADL event which is really fun.

Just thought I'd clarify. I didn't remember any oceans, where NB is located, bordering Quebec, being that I grew up there, I think I would have noticed. :D

(Disclaimer: don't take this too seriously, this is a joke. I'm sure there is an invisible ocean there somewhere, beside Quebec.)

[gatherer]

Wes,

If Barc cannot get another date (Which I want them too, but we all know crap can happen) We will have 5 dates ont he schedule, does that mean it will be a best 3 of 5 or will it be best 4 of 5?

Thank you for your time,

Jason.

[bbqman]

Hey Joe, when I said leading club for big ass events...I was refering to CADL hosting the original AM-CAN events at Sanair....actually 3 years in a row back in the early 90's.

The club followed that up with the first CAC of the new era with 100+ entrants.

Not to mention that we host annual rounds of the FSAQ Provincial championship with 100+ entrants, over the past 10 years....

Of yeah just for clarification too, the CADL was the original host of the Interprovincial challenge, again another 100+ participant event....... so yeah it safe to say that CADL has done their fair share of "stepping up" and leading the way.

Joe- this is no joke, there is no invisible ocean between Quebec and anywhere else....just an invisible border that some chose not to cross!!

See you in Quebec in 2007!!:D

[tanney]

Updated schedule above.....

[Doug Phillips]

Well the Picton events moving to the holiday long weekend is really disapointing.

I am sure there will be a lot of other people disapointed as well. Not having events on a holiday weekend seems to be the general opinion when the National were being discussed last summer.

Might not be worthwhile for me to register this year. Wasted money on rubber already. :(

[13inches]

Doug, when will TFBM be hosting an event?

Aren't you an SPDA member too? Maybe you can talk to your club about hosting an event that suits your schedule! Isn't that what membership is all about?!?!?

[Doug Phillips]

Doug, when will TFBM be hosting an event?

Aren't you an SPDA member too? Maybe you can talk to your club about hosting an event that suits your schedule! Isn't that what membership is all about?!?!?


TFbM will not be hosting a Regional any time soon. We have trouble getting 10-15 of our club members to attend and with 20 cars or so it is not unusual to still take the whole day for 5 runs.

My SPDA membership is only hours old. :)

The schedule as it was originally released was very good. I look forward to Picton every year, except when it is wet.

I would think that having an event on a holiday weekend is not very appealing to a lot of people. Having two events on a holiday weekend is brutal. I guess time will tell who is willing to make that commitment.

I understand that there was some sort of conflict with the original dates for Picton but moving it to the 26-27 May or later in September would have been better choices.

I am having a look at the PITTL schedule now, maybe TLMC also.

[Marsh]

Yea, it's especially annoying when you schedule your clubs series around the regional series. Then have the regional series change dates, because hey it's not difficult to rearrange my clubs schedule at all. :rolleyes:

[finboy]

more people can make the trip to quebec then


http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=10351&highlight=timeattack

[MastaDeeMon]

Yes, that date change does suck. Having a family means that long weekends are for family trips, all the others are for racing. I've already booked a trip with
the family for the May long weekend, missing the first 2 events would mean I couldn't miss any others, which sadly means I probably won't bother running the series.:( I really loved the old schedule, I had it all worked out already. Oh well such is life, I'll just run PITL and HADA then! :D

[tanney]

The schedule has been revised to show an additional date........

CASC-OR 2007 Mobil 1 Ontario Provincial Autoslalom Championship Series Schedule

April 1 - Solo Ontario Open House - CSC Racing, Newmarket
April 28-29 - CASC-OR Solo 2 – SPDA - Autoslalom School – BCS&E, Brampton
May 13 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - CASC-OR - Mohawk Race Track, Milton
May 19 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - SPDA – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)
May 20 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - St. Lac. – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)
June 16 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - HADA – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
June 17 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - COMP – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
July 22 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - WOSCA – Hiawatha Horse Park, Sarnia

The series will now be the best four of six, so if you miss the long weekend, your still in luck.....

[Keith-02Accord]

Wes,

How did you get the mohawk race track? Did Jan Mowbray lend a hand?

I tried to get it once but Woodbine (which owns mohawk) wouldn't have it!

[13inches]

Wow! nice lot!

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=9430+Guelph+Line,Campbellville,+Ontario,,+L0P+1B0&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=28.754573,117.070313&layer=&safe=on&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=43.496231,-80.000081&spn=0.004172,0.01075&t=h&om=1

Compared to Bronte:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=9430+Guelph+Line,Campbellville,+Ontario,,+L0P+1B0&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=28.754573,117.070313&layer=&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&safe=on&z=17&ll=43.417292,-79.723717&spn=0.004177,0.01075&iwloc=addr

[Keith-02Accord]

Yeah, it's a huge lot. Only problem is there are quite a bit of light standards.

[13inches]

You call them light standards....I call them "10-second" cones :D

[Marsh]

You call them light standards....I call them "10-second" cones :D

More like $10,000 cones.

[13inches]

More like $10,000 cones.

Only if you let your gf drive your car......

[Slowpoke]

Only if you let your gf drive your car......

Wow. Braver man than I!

West side of the lot looks pretty open.

[13inches]

Wow. Braver man than I!

You mean you haven't read all the content on http://www.cockyracingguy.com ? I thought everyone had it as their homepage! Maybe I'm the only one.... ?

[Marsh]

Not to defend her or anything, but she only did this:
http://cockyracingguy.com/pictures/Prelude/crash-1.jpg

I did this: http://cockyracingguy.com/pictures/Prelude/crash-3.jpg

Mine was a much more stupid mistake too. Her's was primarily a lack of upper body strength.

[J.C.]

You mean you haven't read all the content on http://www.cockyracingguy.com ? I thought everyone had it as their homepage! Maybe I'm the only one.... ?

Maybe not as a homepage (no offense Marsh) but he has had some of the best videos of the last few years!

[wikdslo]

The schedule has been revised to show an additional date........

CASC-OR 2007 Mobil 1 Ontario Provincial Autoslalom Championship Series Schedule

April 1 - Solo Ontario Open House - CSC Racing, Newmarket
April 28-29 - CASC-OR Solo 2 – SPDA - Autoslalom School – BCS&E, Brampton
May 13 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - CASC-OR - Mohawk Race Track, Milton
May 19 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - SPDA – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)
May 20 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - St. Lac. – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)
June 16 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - HADA – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
June 17 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - COMP – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
July 22 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - WOSCA – Hiawatha Horse Park, Sarnia

The series will now be the best four of six, so if you miss the long weekend, your still in luck.....

Great. Looks like I won't be registering this year.

I can honestly say this is a big disappointment. I've been looking forward to it since last season ended.

For anyone that misses the long weekend, (which im thinking is giong to be a high number) then they had better pray nothing happens to their car before or at any of the events.

Might have been a better idea to put just 1 race on the long weekend, and put another race sometime later.

Missing 1 race because of the long weekend is hard enough, missing 2 just about makes it worthless to sign up.

[Keith-02Accord]

You know, I don't do the regional series, but all I've heard this year is bitch bitch bitch. Whether it be the rules, the schedule, other competitors cars, the courses, the lot, locations, whatever.

It's no wonder Wes resigned his post.

For the schedule change, maybe people should think about it instead of jumping down the director's throat. Could it be the club organizing it had a problem with the date and this was the only weekend they could do it? So maybe it was either the long weekend, or drop two events? Which would you prefer?

Is it ideal to do it on a long weekend? OF COURSE NOT! But I guarantee you that if the events were cancelled outright, everyone would be bitching about that too.

If you can't make it, you can't make it, so be it. But at least there's an option instead of no event at all! And to jump down somebody's throat that is doing this for you OUT OF THEIR OWN SPARE TIME is a very dangerous thing to do, b/c guess what...other people will notice and won't bother stepping up in the future just so they can be bitched out.

[soloZ]

For anyone that misses the long weekend, (which im thinking is giong to be a high number) then they had better pray nothing happens to their car before or at any of the events.



I don't get it, are you that upset your going do something to our cars or do you think some yahoo is going to do something?

[13inches]

I don't get it, are you that upset your going do something to our cars or do you think some yahoo is going to do something?
All he's saying is if you're missing a double-header, you'd better be sure your car is 100% for the other events since you won't have any more throw-aways.

[Marsh]

All he's saying is if you're missing a double-header, you'd better be sure your car is 100% for the other events since you won't have any more throw-aways.

This is another reason I don't like double headers. You can thank those the jumped up and down insisting all the events should be double headers.

Personally I like this particular date change because it was annoying having all the events in one month. I was just annoyed that the schedual was changed after being posted for so long.

[wikdslo]

You know, I don't do the regional series, but all I've heard this year is bitch bitch bitch. Whether it be the rules, the schedule, other competitors cars, the courses, the lot, locations, whatever.

For the schedule change, maybe people should think about it instead of jumping down the director's throat.

Is it ideal to do it on a long weekend? OF COURSE NOT! But I guarantee you that if the events were cancelled outright, everyone would be bitching about that too.

If you can't make it, you can't make it, so be it. But at least there's an option instead of no event at all! And to jump down somebody's throat that is doing this for you OUT OF THEIR OWN SPARE TIME is a very dangerous thing to do, b/c guess what...other people will notice and won't bother stepping up in the future just so they can be bitched out.

If you want to talk about jumping down someones throat, I suggest that you reexamine your own post. I was merely posting up my concerns and how this schedule change will affect me.

I can not make the even in July. I have something planned already for that weekend and its booked. The long weekend is my birthday weekend, and for several years we have made a habit of getting together in a group and camping, this year will be no different.

That being said, I am now guaranteed to miss 3 of the 6 events, meaning its pointless for me to compete. Yes this sucks, and no not everyone is the same way, but others have expressed their concern about a double header on the long weekend.

And that being said, if you could point me to the section where we discussed what dates to reschedule that double header weekend to then I'd be quite appreciative.........


All he's saying is if you're missing a double-header, you'd better be sure your car is 100% for the other events since you won't have any more throw-aways.

Thank you. That was exactly my point. Cars do break down, and do so more when being pushed to their limit. Merely reminding people of this fact.

[gatherer]

And that being said, if you could point me to the section where we discussed what dates to reschedule that double header weekend to then I'd be quite appreciative.........


it wasn't discussed. it's up to the clubs to use whatever method they feel best to select their dates. If it should happen that the date they first picked is a no go for whatever reason... it's up to that club to pick a new date. ussually the date is picked by the organizers in the club.

If you really want to get mad at someone join the club that set the date and sign up to organize their next regional. Volunteers are always welcome, since this sport is run by them.

Do I like it being on the long weekend? Well my opinion doesn't matter! St. Lac and SPDA always put on a good show so I'll be there, even if I can't afford to compete.. I might work on my picture taking skills or something like that.

Alll I'm trying to say is if you ask the masses where they want to reschedule an event too you will get a different weekend for each competitor. The St. Lac event has traditionally been held on a weekend in May. During that Event they celebrate the accomplishments of a member of their club. I see nothing wrong with them continuing this tradition. And SPDA teaming up with them to reduce the number of weekends that a person has to commit to this sport is a great thing. Both clubs are going to make this weekend one to enjoy.

and this is the weekend they have picked.

[Slowpoke]

I can not make the even in July. I have something planned already for that weekend and its booked. The long weekend is my birthday weekend, and for several years we have made a habit of getting together in a group and camping, this year will be no different.

Sandbanks Provincial Park. 15km from Picton.

[wikdslo]

it wasn't discussed. it's up to the clubs to use whatever method they feel best to select their dates.

Yeah, I was more being sarcastic towards Keith as he suggested that I think about the whole situation and not "bitch".

Well, I wasn't bitching, merely expressing my disappointment at the outcome of the date change. As well, thinking about it will get me nothing. My point was that what's done is done, and there was no open discussion to ask the people what dates would be good to reschedule. So I couldn't voice a constructive opinion beforehand that might have helped direct a more suitable change.

If you really want to get mad at someone join the club that set the date and sign up to organize their next regional. Volunteers are always welcome, since this sport is run by them.

I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. Its not Wes' fault, or anyone elses fault. One date was not suitable, so they switched it. But does that mean that I'm supposed to just go off in a corner and do nothing about it? If we DON'T voice our opinions, then how are the directors/organizers ever going to know our thoughts on things?


It's an interesting point that Keith posted about how they do this "for us" on their own spare time. I fully agree with this and I am grateful for the work they do. Sadly, I won't benefit from any of it this season.

Before anyone goes and jumps on this like I'm the only one who can't compete and I'm just complaining or something, I'm not. I recall a discussion on these forums where it was noted that the regional series is trying to bring in more people and promote the sport do to low numbers. I figured that if I don't speak up now, then others who might not be able to sign up for the regionals this year also might not speak up, and then the turn out will be very low for the remaining people who do want to compete.

My actions are only in the best interest of the sport.

[wikdslo]

Sandbanks Provincial Park. 15km from Picton.

Yeah I know. Initially, with the other dates, the plan was for me to camp there anyway for that doubleheader weekend. But there are a lot of parties involved in that gtg and I don't know how it would end up.

Additionally to that, I don't have a trailer and I wouldn't be able to fit my racing gear and my camping gear in my car.

Believe me, if I could be sure I could do both, I would in a heartbeat.

[Keith-02Accord]

Well, I guess its the old saying about email and forums, all body language and voice tones are lost. But the way I read it, it certainly came across as 'bitching'. My apologies if I misinterpreted it.

[wikdslo]

Well, I guess its the old saying about email and forums, all body language and voice tones are lost. But the way I read it, it certainly came across as 'bitching'. My apologies if I misinterpreted it.

No harm sir.

[Slowpoke]

Are any non-SPDA or non-St. Lac SERIES PARTICIPANTS (keep it to yourself if you're not going to run the series anyway) in favour of the two long weekend events?

For me, I have some time booked off around the long weekend, so there was actually a better chance of me making it than on other weekends.

[Pete@Marcor]

No harm sir.

Stephen, we are trying to work on a solution to BOTH of your issues for this year.

Just to clarify the situation for everyone's sake, the June weekend had a conflict with the organizing clubs. We tried to come up with the best possible solution, and the best that could be achieved at that time was the earlier May 19/20 weekend. It did not conflict with the Solo 1 series, but it was a long weekend.

So, in the interest of everyone involved, we are trying to see what can be done to remedy this conflict.

Yes, I understand that when a competitor misses a full weekend, it makes it extremely difficult to compete for the rest of the year, as the competitor needs to make every one of the remaining events, but also has to do well to do well for the year. This happens to be my concerns with Double Header weekends in general, but it just turned out that the proposals from the clubs came about as all Double Header weekends.

I would really like to have a resolution soon, and we will try to keep you all updated.

[Slowpoke]

Stephen, we are trying to work on a solution to BOTH of your issues for this year.
Not sure whatcha mean... you quoted Wikdslo but addressed me... unless Wikdslo's name is also Stephen?

Either way, if I wasn't clear, I'm NOT in disagreement with the SPDA / St. LAC event being on a long weekend. We're hearing from those who seem to want the date changed... just asking if anyone likes the date just fine the way it is...? If we're changing it to address the valid concerns of a few, who are we going to inconvenience?

[Pete@Marcor]

Not sure whatcha mean... you quoted Wikdslo but addressed me... unless Wikdslo's name is also Stephen?

Either way, if I wasn't clear, I'm NOT in disagreement with the SPDA / St. LAC event being on a long weekend. We're hearing from those who seem to want the date changed... just asking if anyone likes the date just fine the way it is...? If we're changing it to address the valid concerns of a few, who are we going to inconvenience?

Yes, yes. Steve, I had a brain fart, and thought that Jonas' post was from you.

I see that, interestingly enough, the long weekend events might actually work for you.

[Slowpoke]

I see that, interestingly enough, the long weekend events might actually work for you.

If it were to accomodate me, I'd make the Autoslalom series take place on the Monday to Friday of one week in February. I'd just have to book one week off of work. The tires that you buy just for the series could then be used as snow tires on your street car after the five events!

Strangely, no one asks me what I want. :rolleyes:

(Just kidding. About the not being asked what I want part, anyways. ;) )

[jduffett]

So, in the interest of everyone involved, we are trying to see what can be done to remedy this conflict.

So this means there may potentially be another date change? For me, the original dates were fine, the current dates are fine (though I can see the problem for others), but I'd really like the dates to be finalized so I can make some plans.

[Pete@Marcor]

So this means there may potentially be another date change? For me, the original dates were fine, the current dates are fine (though I can see the problem for others), but I'd really like the dates to be finalized so I can make some plans.

I cannot stress enough how hard everyone is trying to get some solid, firm dates posted. I would hope that they are set within the next few days.

Everyone needs to make plans.

[jduffett]

Thanks... Much appreciated!

[Pete@Marcor]

In what I hope will be the last change to the CASC-OR Ontario Provincial Championship schedule, the much disliked long weekend in May has been removed. In its place, SPDA and St LAC have acquired what I hope will be a much more agreeable weekend. It has been moved to the end of the season, and will occur on the September 15/16 weekend.

So, the new dates are as follows:

April 1 - Solo Ontario Open House - CSC Racing, Newmarket
April 28-29 - CASC-OR Solo 2 – SPDA - Autoslalom School – BCS&E, Brampton
May 12 – Reserved for a non championship community awareness event – Details to follow
May 13 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - CASC-OR - Mohawk Race Track, Milton
June 16 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - HADA – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
June 17 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - COMP – Bronte GO Station, Oakville
July 22 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - WOSCA – Hiawatha Horse Park, Sarnia
September 15 - CASC-OR Autoslalom - SPDA – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)
September 16 – CASC-OR Autoslalom - St. Lac. – Picton Airport, Picton (Updated with date change)

This spreads the season out a bit longer, and I hope that these dates are more agreeable to more people.

Thank you for your time and patience.

[soloZ]

Man that sucks now people that didn't mind the event on a long weekend have to wait till September.

[thekid]

Everyone should just quit there bitching, as it's been mentioned earlier in this thread it's not Pete that sets the schedule its the clubs. Only the whiners spoke up about the long weekend, no one (except Steve) bothered to express their support. Maybe should post when they like the schedule so that it doesn't get changed again!

Pete, thanks for your efforts!

[JoeT]

Everyone should just quit there bitching, as it's been mentioned earlier in this thread it's not Pete that sets the schedule its the clubs. Only the whiners spoke up about the long weekend, no one (except Steve) bothered to express their support. Maybe should post when they like the schedule so that it doesn't get changed again!

Pete, thanks for your efforts!


I like the schedule.. LOL

I know we intend to use as much of the airport as possible. Hopefully we can make an entertaining "single lap" around the 3 runways possible. If it can't be maintained as being fun and interesting by stringing the 3 runways, then we'll figure something else out.

But it's going to be the "double header" not to miss.

[Pete@Marcor]

Everyone should just quit there bitching, as it's been mentioned earlier in this thread it's not Pete that sets the schedule its the clubs. Only the whiners spoke up about the long weekend, no one (except Steve) bothered to express their support. Maybe should post when they like the schedule so that it doesn't get changed again!

Pete, thanks for your efforts!

This is true. All parties involved have tried to come to the best solution. I had heard a lot of complaining that the series was too compacted in to the beginning of the summer, and this was actually thought to remedy that.

And thank you Brian. I have some big shoes to fill. :)

[wikdslo]

Everyone should just quit there bitching, as it's been mentioned earlier in this thread it's not Pete that sets the schedule its the clubs. Only the whiners spoke up about the long weekend, no one (except Steve) bothered to express their support. Maybe should post when they like the schedule so that it doesn't get changed again!

Pete, thanks for your efforts!


Hrm. I have to ask you what you are basing this on? I know this is an online discussion forum where we are supposed to discuss topics.. like the one we are presently discussing? I think that is the entire purpose of this forum in general no?

Anyway, If you read back through this thread, and I have, you will find these comments. I don't know how you interpret these, but just remember that not everyone speaks the same, and not everyone writes the same, so what you may consider to be "whining and bitching" might only be people expressing themself in a manner they consider normal.

I know that I expressed my dissapointment in this thread, and offered up the suggestion to put just 1 event on the long weekend. If I didn't say that, how is anyone to know? I don't know if you consider that as jumping down Pete's throw, but I can assure you I did no such thing. (and I saw no one pointing fingers in this thread)The organizers (like Pete) do the best they can to please everyone. This means that someone is going to end up a bit put off by what happens.

This is a discussion forum, lets let people discuss.

Well the Picton events moving to the holiday long weekend is really disapointing.

Might not be worthwhile for me to register this year. Wasted money on rubber already. :(
.....
I understand that there was some sort of conflict with the original dates for Picton but moving it to the 26-27 May or later in September would have been better choices.


Yea, it's especially annoying when you schedule your clubs series around the regional series. Then have the regional series change dates, because hey it's not difficult to rearrange my clubs schedule at all. :rolleyes:

Yes, that date change does suck. I've already booked a trip with the family for the May long weekend, missing the first 2 events would mean I couldn't miss any others, which sadly means I probably won't bother running the series.:( I really loved the old schedule, I had it all worked out already. Oh well such is life, I'll just run PITL and HADA then! :D

Great. Looks like I won't be registering this year.

I can honestly say this is a big disappointment. I've been looking forward to it since last season ended.

Might have been a better idea to put just 1 race on the long weekend, and put another race sometime later.

[gatherer]

Wow SPDA, St. Lac and the region are really accomidating...

Anyways I might try to make this event just for fun .. if my car doesn't fall apart. it'll be cool to see how large a course can be created with all 3 runways...

[thekid]

^^ My comment wasn't directed at one person, so don't flatter yourself. Having said that the tone of some posts has been kind of whiny. Using terms like annoying and sucks, and the sarcasm present, aren't the nicest way to send a message and are pretty much whiny!

I was suggesting that people who are happy with the changes speak up as well, because after every change there will always be someone who complains and the vocal majority is often those who have a problem with something, they speak up and spark change that isn't always desired by the actual majority.

[Keith-02Accord]

You can please most of the people most of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time!!!

[Marsh]

I didn't much care either way, but in general if you have to move a date then making it later is usually better. Easier for everyone to change plans. This weekend is actually more of a conflict, but it's a much easier month to shuffle things around in!

[Doug Phillips]

Hrm. I have to ask you what you are basing this on? I know this is an online discussion forum where we are supposed to discuss topics.. like the one we are presently discussing? I think that is the entire purpose of this forum in general no?

Anyway, If you read back through this thread, and I have, you will find these comments. I don't know how you interpret these, but just remember that not everyone speaks the same, and not everyone writes the same, so what you may consider to be "whining and bitching" might only be people expressing themself in a manner they consider normal.

I know that I expressed my dissapointment in this thread, and offered up the suggestion to put just 1 event on the long weekend. If I didn't say that, how is anyone to know? I don't know if you consider that as jumping down Pete's throw, but I can assure you I did no such thing. (and I saw no one pointing fingers in this thread)The organizers (like Pete) do the best they can to please everyone. This means that someone is going to end up a bit put off by what happens.

This is a discussion forum, lets let people discuss.

Sort of what I was thinking. Someone saying that the schedule is not to their liking does not neccessarily mean they are whining or complaining, just stating an opinion.

Thanks Pete. Now I can get my four events in by using the two double header weekends.

If you are lookig for a negative, the long weekend schedule meant I could not run the series and I had planned to switch to the Solo 1 series this year. Now you have messed that up. Thanks. :D

[Pete@Marcor]

Sort of what I was thinking. Someone saying that the schedule is not to their liking does not neccessarily mean they are whining or complaining, just stating an opinion.

Thanks Pete. Now I can get my four events in by using the two double header weekends.

If you are lookig for a negative, the long weekend schedule meant I could not run the series and I had planned to switch to the Solo 1 series this year. Now you have messed that up. Thanks. :D

Just think of how much money in tires and brakes that the Solo 2 clubs have saved you! You can forward that on to me, if you would like. :)

I have not started to take offence at stuff yet, so no worries.

[tanney]

Just think of how much money in tires and brakes that the Solo 2 clubs have saved you! You can forward that on to me, if you would like. :)

I have not started to take offence at stuff yet, so no worries.

That will change...... The none stop complaints and self centred attitudes gets to you after a couple of years. You will only be the golden boy for one season before they turn on you:D

[miataboi]

I have not started to take offence at stuff yet, so no worries.


Good for you Pete...

You are thick-skinned (altho I'm not saying it's time to start taking pot-shots at Pete!)... you're logical and can also see the bigger picture...

I'm sure you'll do well... and I'm sure you won't start taking people's comments personally or out of context...

Best of luck as director in '07 Pete!

[max attack]

I'm cool with the schedule change,might be ready for the picton double header now after all!

[yellowhotshoe]

I would agree Tom. I think stringing the 3 runways together might be kind of cool...ala the Cleveland Champ Car race? Don't think I'll ever forget Mansell and Fittipaldi going wheel to wheel around there for a couple of laps. They must have swapped positions 6 or 7 times.

Hope I have some rubber left by then:D

BTW, is there LOTS of runoff room there?:o

[max attack]

I would agree Tom. I think stringing the 3 runways together might be kind of cool...ala the Cleveland Champ Car race? Don't think I'll ever forget Mansell and Fittipaldi going wheel to wheel around there for a couple of laps. They must have swapped positions 6 or 7 times.

Hope I have some rubber left by then:D

BTW, is there LOTS of runoff room there?:o


Tires,oh yeah Picton is tough on tires.I'll have to start the season on last years rubber but I doubt it'll survive though to Picton so maybe I'll be on fresh rubber by then.;)

[JoeT]

I would agree Tom. I think stringing the 3 runways together might be kind of cool...ala the Cleveland Champ Car race? Don't think I'll ever forget Mansell and Fittipaldi going wheel to wheel around there for a couple of laps. They must have swapped positions 6 or 7 times.

Hope I have some rubber left by then:D

BTW, is there LOTS of runoff room there?:o

Tons and tons of runoff room.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Picton+Ontario&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=14&ll=43.988183,-77.140846&spn=0.025628,0.086002&t=h&om=1&iwloc=addr

[J.C.]

Wow that's going to be atleast 2km around! I can see it now FTD is around 2 minutes. :eek:




P.S. Don't get me wrong I am not complaining. I think this event will be amazing and it should be easy to have multiple cars on at once.

[wikdslo]

Wow that's going to be atleast 2km around! I can see it now FTD is around 2 minutes. :eek:

P.S. Don't get me wrong I am not complaining. I think this event will be amazing and it should be easy to have multiple cars on at once.

I would love to see a course with a longer running time! Might be kinda fun to have to map out that much more course, and really put you to the test :)

[Doug Phillips]

I would agree Tom. I think stringing the 3 runways together might be kind of cool...ala the Cleveland Champ Car race? Don't think I'll ever forget Mansell and Fittipaldi going wheel to wheel around there for a couple of laps. They must have swapped positions 6 or 7 times.

Hope I have some rubber left by then:D

BTW, is there LOTS of runoff room there?:o

Good runoff but you still have to drive around the cones and timing equipment.;)

[Doug Phillips]

Wow that's going to be atleast 2km around! I can see it now FTD is around 2 minutes. :eek:




P.S. Don't get me wrong I am not complaining. I think this event will be amazing and it should be easy to have multiple cars on at once.

Maybe they will put a stopbox at the far end so you can take a small break and get a drink. :D

[J.C.]

Maybe they will put a stopbox at the far end so you can take a small break and get a drink. :D

Hmm, with a snackbar and a streetmeat vendor? Maybe we could get a 94 octane pump put in while were at it. ;)

[JoeT]

Good runoff but you still have to drive around the cones and timing equipment.;)

LOL, the first Autoslalom course that V710's won't do well on, since they'll be overheated by the end of the first runway, and there's 2 more to go. Hummmmmmmm.... Looks like it's time to go for RA-1's (shameless plug for our sponsor and more hint hint, oh yeah, and use your Talon Tire Gift Certs to buy them.. Muahahahahha).

[Marsh]

Hmm, with a snackbar and a streetmeat vendor? Maybe we could get a 94 octane pump put in while were at it. ;)

Two "stages" with cummulative time and a fixed time between stages (alla rally)!

[max attack]

Good thing I put a BIG fuel cell in this time around.:)

[Slowpoke]

Wow that's going to be atleast 2km around! I can see it now FTD is around 2 minutes. :eek:

2km?! Heck, do you think we can ask the Director to allow roller blades for this one weekend? We'll have to get there by 5am just to do the course walks!

[Pete@Marcor]

2km?! Heck, do you think we can ask the Director to allow roller blades for this one weekend? We'll have to get there by 5am just to do the course walks!

Nope, I hear that guy is a closed-minded, uninterested PITA.:)

And, since you ARE part of the organizing club, aren't you gonna be there by that time anyways?:)

[Slowpoke]

And, since you ARE part of the organizing club, aren't you gonna be there by that time anyways?:)Nah, I'm just the brains of the outfit. I'm not actually planning on doing any work. I have underlings for that. :cool:









(I think with that comment I just volunteered myself for garbage and "porta-potty management" responsibilities. :eek: )

[wikdslo]

2km?! Heck, do you think we can ask the Director to allow roller blades for this one weekend? We'll have to get there by 5am just to do the course walks!


I plan on bringing the pocket bike if its that big.

I'll try to rig up a trailer to tow people around with :)

[Pete@Marcor]

I plan on bringing the pocket bike if its that big.

I'll try to rig up a trailer to tow people around with :)

Uh Uhhhn. Not unless ya wanna get DQ'd. Tsk, tsk. :)

[Slowpoke]

LOL, the first Autoslalom course that V710's won't do well on, since they'll be overheated by the end of the first runway, and there's 2 more to go. Hummmmmmmm.... Looks like it's time to go for RA-1's
It occurs to me that people are also going to need a brake pad that can handle some heat. ;-) Maybe quite a bit of heat.

[Maddog]

Is it still $25 for series registration this year?

[max attack]

It occurs to me that people are also going to need a brake pad that can handle some heat. ;-) Maybe quite a bit of heat.


Thats only for high powered overweight cars that NEED to slow down!.:D

[JoeT]

Thats only for high powered overweight cars that NEED to slow down!.:D

Or for slowing down just enough so you can see through the cloud of CO2 fog.. LOL (is it tied down now?) :D

[max attack]

Or for slowing down just enough so you can see through the cloud of CO2 fog.. LOL (is it tied down now?) :D

What was that 4 or 5 years ago now?,let it go-just let it go..:D

Now when the wife says the car made some banging noises on course I look under and IN the car!.

[JoeT]

What was that 4 or 5 years ago now?,let it go-just let it go..:D

Now when the wife says the car made some banging noises on course I look under and IN the car!.

Nevaaaaaaaa!!! :D

[max attack]

Nevaaaaaaaa!!! :D


Thats why the bottle stays in the pit not in the car since then.;)

[wikdslo]

Uh Uhhhn. Not unless ya wanna get DQ'd. Tsk, tsk. :)

Cmon.. We'll wear helmets and I'll even rig up a duct tape seat belt for safety!

I dont even think that thing could pull any weight :(

[Pete@Marcor]

Cmon.. We'll wear helmets and I'll even rig up a duct tape seat belt for safety!

I dont even think that thing could pull any weight :(

The concern is the "at speed" vision of the course.