CASC-OR Autoslalom School

[JoeT]

Location: Powerade Center, Brampton Ontario
Date: April 28 & 29, 2007
Price: Day 1 - $60.00 (30 Prepaid Students Maximum).
Price: Day 2 - $40.00 (50 Prepaid Participants Maximum).

SPDA continues it's tradition of offering first class instruction with a focus on lots of "Hands On" training for a value price. This event is open to all cars. Instruction will be provided by qualified instructors with Regional Series Competition experience. In car instruction will provide the students with narrative, and positive re-inforcement in how to properly negotiate the courses. The 2 day event is intended to be informative and Fun, with focus on "Fun".

Agenda:

Pre-Requisite: All drivers must be Legally Licensed in Canada with a valid drivers licence, Automobiles must belong to the driver, or must have a consent form from the owner to be used for this type of event.


Day 1: Advanced Driver Training - Phase 19:30 – 3:30

The first day focuses on assisting the driver to get better acquainted with their cars. The exercises being instructed throughout the day will instil confidence in the student and teach the driver about how to exploit the limits of their cars in a safe controlled environment.


Drivers will learn the limits of their daily driver through exercises specifically designed to get the driver and vehicle better acquainted with each other:

Agenda: (In Car Instruction)

Seating Position:
Feet Positions:
Hand Position:
Skidpads: Instruct the student to recognize “Understeer” and “Oversteer”
Figure 8’s: Weight Transfer, Braking Points, Controlled Entry and Exit
Threshold Braking, Braking with ABS
Parallel Slaloms: Transitions
Mock Autocross Course: Reward at the end of the day

Pre-Requisite Day 2: Drivers must have had the basic instruction similar to Day 1, must have participated in other autoslalom schools, or club series competitive Autoslaloms.

Day 2: Advanced Driver Training – Phase 2

Day 2 focuses on increasing the driver confidence through setup techniques. In addition to the lessons learned in Day 1, Day 2 focuses on putting to practice all the items learned on Day 1, and will teach the student to look farther ahead, and to plan their course.

Agenda:


Course Walk: Teaches the newcomer on how to read the layout of the track
Tire Pressures: Effect of Tire Pressures on driving dynamics
Trail Braking:
In Car Instruction: With Instruction as required
Autocross Instruction the entire day
Timing equipment will be on the premises but the
event will not be formally timed.


Requirements for Advanced Driving School:

Helmets: Snell 2000 (min)
Water:
Appropriate Clothing: This event occurs outdoors
Umbrella (Rain or Shine)
Closed Shoes: No Sandals please
Food for Lunch: Possibly Catered (TBD)
Drivers License:
Automobile Registration:
Positive Mental Attitude: Ready to have the best time of your life with your clothes on.


We have something special in store for you!

Registration is "First Come First Served" option. We'll announce shortly when registration will open.

Questions, or general enquiries, please click this link -> http://spda-online.ca/modules/liaise/index.php?form_id=6

Thank You

This thread will be updated with the signups for the 2007 CASC Autoslalom School Presented by SPDA.

Day 1

1 Jacob P
2 David W
3 Marlon D
4 Gordian M
5 Darrin W
6 Michael W
7 Kevin F
8 Mark K
9 John H
10 Lawrence R
11 Roberto F
12 Claudio S
13 David D
14 Jonas L
15 Chan N
16 Don D
17 Bruce H
18 Graeme H
19 Mark G
20 Loui-Scott P
21 Ben W
22 Trevor R
23 Travis W
24 Jonathan N
25 Stephen N
26 Andy P
27 Alberto R
28 Greg K
29 Eduino B
30 D'ArcyM
31 Rajesh K

Day 2

1 Jacob P
2 David W
3 Marlon D
4 Gordian M
5 Quentin Y
6 Michael W
7 Kevin F
8 Mark K
9 John H
10 Lawrence R
11 Roberto F
12 Claudio S
13 David D
14 Jonas L
15 Quentin Y
16 Chan N
17 Don D
18 Brice H
19 Graeme H
20 Mark G
21 Loui-Scott P
22 Ben W
23 Trevor R
24 Jonathan N
25 Stephen N
26 Stephen O
27 Andy P
28 Alberto R
29 Greg K
30 Howie Y
31 Michael B
32 Eduino B
33 Darrin W
34 D'ArcyM
35 Rajesh K
36 R C
37 Richard R
38 Wei Z
39 Thomas H
40 Katrin S
41 David M
42 Kwan
43 Mark S
44 Jeff Wil...
45 Michael R
46 Wayne W

Waiting List:
David M (Day 1)
Erin P
Gary P
Andrei I
Richard R
Thomas H (Day 1)

[FastFox]

All drivers must be Legally Licensed in Canada with a valid drivers licence

Full license? Is a G1 or G2 acceptable?

[JoeT]

Full license? Is a G1 or G2 acceptable?

If you're licensed to drive within Ontario's public roads, then it's all good. Yes G1 & G2 Qualify, since it's a school.

Hope this helps.

[JoeT]

Hi All,

Registration is NOT open at this time. We'll post here with details on how to register. At this time, it looks like there will be no advanced registrations, until further notice.

At this time it looks like, web registrations as well as physical registrations will open simultaneously, on or around April 1st, and will be secured on a first come first served basis.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[JoeT]

Registration will open on April 1st at the CASC open house. Please download the form below, and bring it to the SPDA Registration Table accompanied by your payment for the school.

Confirmation is on a first come first served basis. When registration is full, we'll be opening up a waiting list, and will notify people once a spot becomes available.

Registration will open simultaneously on SPDA and CASC Open house at 1:00 PM

Web submissions will be taken online at: http://www.spda-online.ca , Paypal payments will confirm your position.

Thank you

[miataboi]

Registration will open on April 1st at the CASC open house. Please download the form below, and bring it to the SPDA Registration Table accompanied by your payment for the school.

Confirmation is on a first come first served basis. When registration is full, we'll be opening up a waiting list, and will notify people once a spot becomes available.

Registration will open simultaneously on SPDA and CASC Open house at 1:00 PM

Web submissions will be taken online at: http://www.spda-online.ca , Paypal payments will confirm your position.

Thank you


Can I make a suggestion?

I've instructed at the annual autoslalom school a couple of times now... and I know that a lot of people get turned away because the school is full... and there isn't ever really a desire / enough demand to hold a second one...

My pet peeve... and the reason that I won't instruct again until it's changed, is because there are a group of people that go to this school every year... (because of cheap seat time and instruction) then never do anything else, really... other than a few club events if that.

I'd like to suggest that those accepted have never done the school before, because I know of many "willing newbies" that get turned away, when these people fill spots.

Having said that... I have met some GREAT people at the Autoslalom school... and a good # of them do carry on to be active solo'ists... and that is truly the point.

[wikdslo]

Can I make a suggestion?

I've instructed at the annual autoslalom school a couple of times now... and I know that a lot of people get turned away because the school is full... and there isn't ever really a desire / enough demand to hold a second one...

My pet peeve... and the reason that I won't instruct again until it's changed, is because there are a group of people that go to this school every year... (because of cheap seat time and instruction) then never do anything else, really... other than a few club events if that.

I'd like to suggest that those accepted have never done the school before, because I know of many "willing newbies" that get turned away, when these people fill spots.

Having said that... I have met some GREAT people at the Autoslalom school... and a good # of them do carry on to be active solo'ists... and that is truly the point.

I would second this notion. Newbie's first, and returning people second?

[Marsh]

If this thread is a suggestion box then I'd also like to recommend that there be introductions of all the instructors to each other in the morning. Last year I spent most of my time with students telling them not to do things other instructors had told them to do, like sitting so far away from the steering wheel they couldn't reach it at all. It would be handy to know who somebody is before I start cursing them a blue streak and threatening to beat the hell out of them.

[JoeT]

If this thread is a suggestion box then I'd also like to recommend that there be introductions of all the instructors to each other in the morning. Last year I spent most of my time with students telling them not to do things other instructors had told them to do, like sitting so far away from the steering wheel they couldn't reach it at all. It would be handy to know who somebody is before I start cursing them a blue streak and threatening to beat the hell out of them.

I guess none of you have ever participated in any SPDA schools. All comments are considered, and have been taken into account. We are not responsible for previous schools, and we appreciate the comments and constructive comments. No worries.

It's all about making the experience better for all.

Thanks

[JoeT]

Hi All,

Thank you for signing up at the school, it sold out in about 50 Minutes flat, with the majority of sigh ups occuring at the CSC Racing shop. A waiting list has been created for those that want to be in line for any potential cancellations.

Thank you

[JoeT]

The welcome package has been emailed to all participants. If you have registered and do not appear on the list below, please click the "PM" button below and we'll investigate.

Thank You

This thread will be updated with the signups for the 2007 CASC Autoslalom School Presented by SPDA.

Day 1

1 Jacob P
2 David W
3 Marlon D
4 Gordian M
5 Darrin W
6 Michael W
7 Kevin F
8 Mark K
9 John H
10 Lawrence R
11 Roberto F
12 Claudio S
13 David D
14 Jonas L
15 Chan N
16 Don D
17 Bruce H
18 Graeme H
19 Mark G
20 Loui-Scott P
21 Ben W
22 Trevor R
23 Travis W
24 Jonathan N
25 Stephen N
26 Andy P
27 Alberto R
28 Greg K
29 Eduino B
30 D'ArcyM
31 Rajesh K

Day 2

1 Jacob P
2 David W
3 Marlon D
4 Gordian M
5 Quentin Y
6 Michael W
7 Kevin F
8 Mark K
9 John H
10 Lawrence R
11 Roberto F
12 Claudio S
13 David D
14 Jonas L
15 Quentin Y
16 Chan N
17 Don D
18 Brice H
19 Graeme H
20 Mark G
21 Loui-Scott P
22 Ben W
23 Trevor R
24 Jonathan N
25 Stephen N
26 Stephen O
27 Andy P
28 Alberto R
29 Greg K
30 Howie Y
31 Michael B
32 Eduino B
33 Darrin W
34 D'ArcyM
35 Rajesh K
36 R C
37 Richard R
38 Wei Z
39 Thomas H
40 Katrin S
41 David M
42 Kwan
43 Mark S
44 Jeff Wil...
45 Michael R

Waiting List:
David M (Day 1)
Erin P
Gary P
Andrei I
Richard R
Thomas H (Day 1)

[Richz31]

Hey guys,
Two questions
I went to sign up online about an hour after the registration opened and day one was full, but I signed up for day two thinking it was better than nothing. I have never done any track/autocross racing before so is there any point in me going or will I just slow everyone down and piss them off?

Second is anyone willing to show me the basics before day two? I’m not saying that this would be equal to the formal training of day one but I would be better off than nothing at all. I live in richmondhill, but I dont mind driving if somone is willing. I am on the waiting list so all of this might be for nothing anyway.

Thanks a lot,
Richard R

[Daniel]

Hey guys,
Two questions
I went to sign up online about an hour after the registration opened and day one was full, but I signed up for day two thinking it was better than nothing. I have never done any track/autocross racing before so is there any point in me going or will I just slow everyone down and piss them off?

Second is anyone willing to show me the basics before day two? I’m not saying that this would be equal to the formal training of day one but I would be better off than nothing at all. I live in richmondhill, but I dont mind driving if somone is willing. I am on the waiting list so all of this might be for nothing anyway.

Thanks a lot,
Richard R

Rich, Seat time is really the only way to bring you up to speed, but unfortunatly the only way to safely and legally do that is at an event.

Your best bet would be to make your way out to the WOSCA event this coming Sunday in Sarnia - that might be the only event before the school. I'm sure Marsh or one of the other experienced auto-xers would be willing to help you out.... It's a bit of a hike, but you'll find it's well worth your time - particularly if you want to take part in the school at the end of the month.

[Richz31]

Im at school in thunderbay untill the 19th. So is there any point to me showing up for day two?

[JoeT]

Im at school in thunderbay untill the 19th. So is there any point to me showing up for day two?

We'll be setting aside about 1/2 hr on Day 2 for people that are attending the 2nd day only. We'll go over what was missed on Day 1, and what to expect.

So, the floodgates are open for Day 2.

Thank You

[Richz31]

THANKS!! I will see you there!

[JoeT]

Kwan = Confirmed Day 2

[JoeT]

An email has been send to all the particpants, if you did not recieve your email, please cut and past below, and download the pdf from the link.

http://www.grindstonemotorsports.com/tech/2007AUTOSLALOMSCHOOLSPDA.pdf

Thank you for signing up for the 2007 CASC-OR Autoslalom School. Attached is an interesting article to read, to help prepare you for the exciting 2 days of advanced driver training.

Note: This is an autoslalom school, some of the technicques you’ll be learning can be considered extreme. Most of the extreme maneuvers you’ll be learning during the event will be beneficial to you on the street, in the form of accident avoidance. We urge you to arrive with a positive mental attitude, willingness to learn, and the ability to smile endlessly throughout the 2 days.

In return, we will provide to you the most fun you’ll have while learning valuable skills. The instructors on hand are all experienced autcrossers, most of which have multiple championship wins under their belts.

Enjoy your day!

Things to prepare for the school:

Interior:
• Please clean the windows of your car to provide you with the best visibility
• Please remove all floor mats from the car
• Remove any item that may become dislodged and potential impede the use of your brake or accelerator pedal
• Empty the trunk from all loose debris

Exterior and Under Hood:
• Check your oil level, they should be within manufacturer specs
• Brakes must be in good working order and enough pad to stop you safely
• Tires Inflated 10 PSI above factory recommended pressures front and rear
• Gas tank at least ½ full
• Tires with no cords showing
• Lug nuts holding the wheels tightened to factory spec
• Car in good working condition

For the driver:
• Appropriate clothing for the weather
• Bring plenty of water
• Comfortable closed shoes (no sandals, or open toe shoes)
• A positive mental attitude
• Snell 2000 or later model helmet

Nice to have:
• Air compressor
• White shoe polish (to mark tires)

Upon arriving at the Brampton Sports and Entertainment Center, located just north of Derry Rd, on Kennedy in Mississauga, please drive into the south entrance, and park in the designated areas. A helpful staffer will assist you in locating an appropriate spot.

After you’ve unloaded your car, please proceed to registration, and sign the waiver. Check in and await for instruction.

You will be assigned to one of 2 groups. We will have approximately 30 instructors on hand, to provide the students with a 1:1 ratio, complete with feedback and corrective narration.

Agenda:

Day 1
8:30 – 9:30 Registration – Check In
9:30 – 10:00 Classroom Session – We’ll be going over the exercises for the day
10:00 – 10:45 Exercise 1 – Threshold Braking, max braking exercise
11:00 – 11:45 Exercise 2 – Figure 8, holding the line
12:00 – 12:45 Lunch
1:00 – 1:45 Exercise 3 – Slaloms, looking ahead
2:00 – 2:45 Exercise 4 – Corner Entry: Setting up for a corner
3:00 – 4:30 Exercise 5 – Stringing it all together, Course walk + 1 or 2 runs.

Day 2
8:30 – 9:30 Registration – Check in
9:30 – 10:00 Classroom Session, review of previous day
10:00 – 10:30 Car preparation
10:30 – 11:30 Course Walk, Autoslalom Runs, first run solo, then with instructors (Timer will be setup)
11:30 – 12:15 Lunch
12:30 – 4:00 In car instruction + Solo runs

You’ll receive additional emails this week with more information.

Thank you,

SPDA / CASC-OR

[blue dragon]

I just signed up for day 2 :D

[JoeT]

Bring sunscreen..

Weather forecast for the weekend is favourable, and up to 21 degrees and sunny on Sunday.

http://www.theweathernetwork.ca/weather/cities/can/Pages/CAON0441.htm

See you tomorrow.

[Richz31]

hey,
so bad news (for me anyway) my diff is blown....are we allowed to attend in a rental car? or do you require written consent?
Cheers

[J.C.]

Looking back I think wow 76 people, the school had a great turnout.
What I do not understand is where are all those rookies from the novice schools? Why is it we only had 2 rookie competitors come out to the provincials? Don't they realise that after 3 events they are nolonger rookies or eligible for the rookie championship? People there are 5 events out of 6 left and all you need is to compete in 4 to qualify.

It seems to me we should take a page from the solosprint book. Up the fee of the school day so it includes the cost to run in the first event.

IMO I would much rather see people taking the course that actually plan to compete.

J.C.

[mikewolf]

I think some of the participants are (myself included) are running club events first. I'm sure I saw atleast 7 people from the school at the first PITL event.
I also attended the pro solo last saturday.

[13inches]

It seems to me we should take a page from the solosprint book.

Solosprint doesn't have club-level events to introduce newbs to the sport. You do the events, or you go lapping....

Club-level solo2 stuff is where you should have your fun, and learn as much as you can. Then when you're ready to play with the big dogs, you join a club and go to the regional series. I've never understood the point of the novice championship in the regional series.

Besides, how many newbs go out and sign up for a club right off the bat? Not many I'm sure. Other than a few clubs, there really aren't many perks to joining as you get started in the sport. For the weekend competitor it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Marsh]

Solosprint doesn't have club-level events to introduce newbs to the sport. You do the events, or you go lapping....

Club-level solo2 stuff is where you should have your fun, and learn as much as you can. Then when you're ready to play with the big dogs, you join a club and go to the regional series. I've never understood the point of the novice championship in the regional series.

Besides, how many newbs go out and sign up for a club right off the bat? Not many I'm sure. Other than a few clubs, there really aren't many perks to joining as you get started in the sport. For the weekend competitor it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Well I would half agree with this. Some clubs offer sponsor discounts that make it worth while joining. Other clubs offer event discounts for club members that make it worth joining, if you attend their events frequently.

I wouldn't say the provincial championships are for the 'big dogs', just the more serious competitors. If you enjoy slalom at a sport level, rather than just a hobby, then the provincial series is likely for you.

The provincials also offer a chance to travel around and see what other clubs and venues have to offer, but with consistantly well organized events and course designs that are held up to a certain standard that some clubs may or may not normally do for their normal club events.

In either case don't just do one club's events. Travel around and meet different people and see other clubs way of doing things. I never attended a slalom where I would consider the oragnizers and competitors to be anything but friendly.

[StarGehzer]

Is this article staying a 'sticky' because a second course is about to be posted?
Or Is that it till next year?

Vince

[Pete@Marcor]

I have un-stickied this message.