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13inches
01-11-2007, 01:43 PM
Browsing around, I found a few references to the Toronto Chinese Motorsports Club. Does it still exist?

:confused:

JoeT
01-11-2007, 03:00 PM
TCMC used to host lots of Pro style solo's using the Ikea lot at Leslie and Sheppard. I don't think they exist anymore. I still have trophies from the TCMC and the latest one was dated 1st place 1991 :eek: OMG that's many many moooooons ago. (Gosh I feel old, thanks Ryan ;) )

They were a great bunch of guys to compete with.

Slowpoke
01-11-2007, 04:23 PM
I believe they DO still exist. I think that they followed the Saturday Solosprint at Shannonville in 2006. Quite a few of us sat in the grandstands watching... it was quite a show.

I think they were also lapping the big track when I was at the DDT one day in the summer for an OMSC lapping day. IIRC a S2000 left on a flatbed after a mishap in Turn 1.

But, I haven't actually spoken with any of them... perhaps someone from the Solosprint event did?

JoeT
01-11-2007, 04:26 PM
Their president's name was Joe Monzon (at one time). Hummm interesting.

finboy
01-11-2007, 04:43 PM
back in the day...

they also hosted a bunch of lapping days....

Ikea events were fun as hell!! never knew if the event was going to happen..
till the pickup truck arrived with the cones

It was back when I saw a red Lude with a baby seat.. kicking ass

i was like.. dam that clark kent guy is a fast mofo!!


kinda like pinks.. in a way....

hand held stop watches, no classes.. no fancy shmancy electronics


just raise the hands and go.... the stop box was just as fun to watch as the
entire run




saw flyers in a few shops back then....

ultimate
wheels direct
and a few others in the east end of town


from Barry's site
http://www.swbs.com/clubs.html#TCMC

JoeT
01-11-2007, 04:51 PM
back in the day...

they also hosted a bunch of lapping days....

Ikea events were fun as hell!! never knew if the event was going to happen..
till the pickup truck arrived with the cones

It was back when I saw a red Lude with a baby seat.. kicking ass

i was like.. dam that clark kent guy is a fast mofo!!


kinda like pinks.. in a way....

hand held stop watches, no classes.. no fancy shmancy electronics


just raise the hands and go.... the stop box was just as fun to watch as the
entire run




saw flyers in a few shops back then....

ultimate
wheels direct
and a few others in the east end of town


from Barry's site
http://www.swbs.com/clubs.html#TCMC


I don't remember the Red Lude, but I do remember my 1990 Prelude SI (Black) and my 1998 Prelude S (Red), a beige VW Rabbit driven by a certain "teacher" who now drives an Isuzu Impulse, not to mention a Mustang with a vanity plate of Gforce, etc.

Yeah, it was fun. Mike B and I were in the same class, and it was always a pleasure competing against him.

What were you driving back then, Finboy?

thekid
01-11-2007, 05:10 PM
I believe they DO still exist. I think that they followed the Saturday Solosprint at Shannonville in 2006. Quite a few of us sat in the grandstands watching... it was quite a show.

I think they were also lapping the big track when I was at the DDT one day in the summer for an OMSC lapping day. IIRC a S2000 left on a flatbed after a mishap in Turn 1.

But, I haven't actually spoken with any of them... perhaps someone from the Solosprint event did?

That group that followed us at Shannonville was Battle Endless, not sure if they're in any way affiliated with TCMC.

finboy
01-12-2007, 10:21 AM
I don't remember the Red Lude, but I do remember my 1990 Prelude SI (Black) and my 1998 Prelude S (Red), a beige VW Rabbit driven by a certain "teacher" who now drives an Isuzu Impulse, not to mention a Mustang with a vanity plate of Gforce, etc.

Yeah, it was fun. Mike B and I were in the same class, and it was always a pleasure competing against him.

What were you driving back then, Finboy?

the ikea thing for me started.... i think back 95/96

was driving the same white pos car

Ian M in the black golf and TM in the red Lude dominated

one of the events.. Ian had to forfeit.. fautly o2 sensor or something in the final round


good times

JoeT
01-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Finboy,

In 95 / 96, I drove a Nissan 240 SX, I remember Ian and Tony from waaaaay back then. Did you do any of their Pro-Solo's?

13inches
01-12-2007, 02:58 PM
In 95 / 96, I drove a Nissan 240 SX,

Before they were cool?

Lol.....I love hearing stories from you old guys! It makes me feel so young!

JoeT
01-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Before they were cool?

Lol.....I love hearing stories from you old guys! It makes me feel so young!

You are young, still being bottle fed, aren't you.. :D

Does the name Rad Vach mean anything to anyone, we used to be in the same class in "solosport"... (That's another old term).

bbqman
01-12-2007, 04:18 PM
Haha Rad Vach....... googled his name and found this....

http://neon.atsweb.net/c&dautox.html

some old reading...

Joe- are you implying that you were in his class...AND as quick as he was?

JoeT
01-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Haha Rad Vach....... googled his name and found this....

http://neon.atsweb.net/c&dautox.html

some old reading...

Joe- are you implying that you were in his class...AND as quick as he was?

We swapped 1sts and 2nds back then, yes. I ran an 89 Prelude SI, Tokico gas struts, Yokohama A008R, 205-50-15. He ran 85 Honda Prelude with funky offset rims that stuck out of the car. Rad moved away from Toronto when he met a nice young lady and got hooked up with her and moved to the states. He's a great guy!

Not implying, you can check the results if they are around somewhere.

finboy
01-12-2007, 04:49 PM
Finboy,

In 95 / 96, I drove a Nissan 240 SX, I remember Ian and Tony from waaaaay back then. Did you do any of their Pro-Solo's?



maybe you were a skinny mofo.. with black hair
that's why i don't remember you...



heck.. i was a skinny mofo.. with BLACK hair

finboy
01-12-2007, 04:52 PM
We swapped 1sts and 2nds back then, yes. I ran an 89 Prelude SI, Tokico gas struts, Yokohama A008R, 205-50-15. He ran 85 Honda Prelude with funky offset rims that stuck out of the car. Rad moved away from Toronto when me met a nice young lady and got hooked up with her and moved to the states. He's a great guy!

Not implying, you can check the results if they are around somewhere.

that was just when i started to get involved.. ST bought RV's prelude

JoeT
01-12-2007, 04:52 PM
maybe you were a skinny mofo.. with black hair
that's why i don't remember you...



heck.. i was a skinny mofo.. with BLACK hair

Hey, I'm still the same guy, just 3 skinny people in 1, and if you discount the grey ones, the others that remain are definately black. :D

finboy
01-12-2007, 04:56 PM
Hey, I'm still the same guy, just 3 skinny people in 1, and if you discount the grey ones, the others that remain are definately black. :D



ohhhh dude....

:eek:


:shudder throwup shudder:

thekid
01-12-2007, 05:51 PM
You are young, still being bottle fed, aren't you.. :D

Does the name Rad Vach mean anything to anyone, we used to be in the same class in "solosport"... (That's another old term).


I think I remember seeing his name on the side of the TAC Solo 2 Trophy...

Marsh
01-12-2007, 07:02 PM
Solosport was a real glory age. I've met people from all over the continent that have attended events in Ontario during the SoloSprint era. I even have some video here of when Rogers covered the WOSCA regional back then at "Wonderland Mall".

That article was actually the first time I ever heard about solo-2. It wasn't until 1997 that I finally found out about a club in Ontario and went to a meeting.

If only we could get rid of sunday shopping again...sigh...

abrracing
01-12-2007, 08:19 PM
Okay, a little TCMC history. I was the token white guy in the club. The club was started by a guy named Chung Tam and then after a couple of years Joe Chan took over the helm. We used to run Solo II's at Ikea (I was usually the course designer) and yes we did pro solo's much to the dismay of the Solo II director of CASC at that time. We also did lapping days at Shannonville and Mosport. The club no longer exists as it did back then. When certain members of the Chinese community rent tracks the track owners (Mosport and Shannonville) still list them as TCMC, but it has nothing to do with the original TCMC.
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JoeT
01-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Okay, a little TCMC history. I was the token white guy in the club. The club was started by a guy named Chung Tam and then after a couple of years Joe Chan took over the helm. We used to run Solo II's at Ikea (I was usually the course designer) and yes we did pro solo's much to the dismay of the Solo II director of CASC at that time. We also did lapping days at Shannonville and Mosport. The club no longer exists as it did back then. When certain members of the Chinese community rent tracks the track owners (Mosport and Shannonville) still list them as TCMC, but it has nothing to do with the original TCMC.

I remember Chung Tam too.. He eventually bought a Bimmer. What ever happened to Chung Tam, Joe Monzon and the few originals?

abrracing
01-12-2007, 10:15 PM
Chung has moved back to China, Joe Chan is running his automotive business, Wayne Chen still has his repair shop, Joe Monza from what I understand is an automotive tech at BMW and Im still here running Scarboro Mazda and regional racing!

ps. The Mustang with the "G4RCE" vanity plate is still in my garage and still run the occasional Solo II!
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finboy
01-12-2007, 10:37 PM
Okay, a little TCMC history. I was the token white guy in the club.

i think you are one of the few who is actually thinner than back in the day


everyone else got phat with age

tony mcgrath
01-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Haha Rad Vach....... googled his name and found this....

http://neon.atsweb.net/c&dautox.html

some old reading...

Joe- are you implying that you were in his class...AND as quick as he was?

Carl;

Rad got better after he left Ontario- he was good, but guys like Joe and Murray Jones, and others used to finish ahead of him on a regular basis.

Once he left he immersed himself in Solo 2 in the U.S. and upped his game.

Although having said that -he did come back up for a BFG Pro solo here at the airport in 97 and never made it to the finals. :shrug: Maybe our local talent pool is deep after all. :)

As he stated in that article:

"We determined our alignment settings during test and tune sessions at various airports, including pads built for training helicopter pilots in Mineral Wells, Texas. Each year we collaborate with several other teams to rent such sites for experimentation."

When you spend the time every year doing that kind of quality practice with other National caliber drivers you benefit big time.. I know a few U.S. national champs would attend these test and tune days in upper Michigan on concrete and by the end of the weekend they had themselves and their cars dialed in for concrete. Then it was off to Salina or Topeka to collect another trophy. ;)

Tony

tony mcgrath
01-13-2007, 11:03 AM
Solosport was a real glory age. I've met people from all over the continent that have attended events in Ontario during the SoloSprint era. I even have some video here of when Rogers covered the WOSCA regional back then at "Wonderland Mall".

That article was actually the first time I ever heard about solo-2. It wasn't until 1997 that I finally found out about a club in Ontario and went to a meeting.

If only we could get rid of sunday shopping again...sigh...

Actually London was a real hotbed of publicity for solo events. Frank Gibb promoted a 3 event series of Street slaloms that ran on the main drags of London, Windsor and Hamilton back in 86-87. It was hard to believe that those cities would close the main street for a weekend for a Solo 2 event, but it was very cool.
Those events were how Tom Hnatiw got into the racing industry. He use to manage a restaurant in Hamilton and after the street slalom there we all went into his restaurant for a bite. He started asking questions about what was going on and the next season he was right into it.
He then got a job with Firestone tires as a motorsports coordinator and later was integral in bringing the Firehawk endurance series to Mosport.
Then when Vandermarel, Lorriman and Rotenberg approached him about Solosport in 1988 - no problem- all the free tires you need! They were able to get all the tire manufacturers on-board and before you knew it they were giving away 5 sets of tires at each event. So yeah 1989-91 are remembered as the Solosport years.
Now if we could just convince retired Paradigm speaker mogul J.Vandermarel that there needs to be a paved acre for the future of Solo2 development somewhere on the outskirts of the big smoke....

Tony

tony mcgrath
01-13-2007, 11:38 AM
Now if we could just convince retired Paradigm speaker mogul J.Vandermarel that there needs to be a paved acre for the future of Solo2 development somewhere on the outskirts of the big smoke....

Tony

And if the government really wants to put their money where their mouth is in regards to the street racing issue. They could fund "SoloWorld" - Miles of shimmering black asphalt, just outside the GTA, no noise complaints, use it all year round for driver skill development....hmmm

Tony