CASC-OR event #4 hosted by WOSCA [Archive] - CASC Ontario Region Message Forums

Marsh

06-27-2003, 10:10 PM

Just to remind every one that regional event #4 will be held next Sunday, July 6th, at Blandford Square Mall in Woodstock.

http://www.wosca.com/Event_info/Region-2003-Event-4.htm

Registration Begins at 9:00 am, driver's meeting begins at 10:00 am. Registration is closed at the beginning of the drivers meeting. All driver's must attend the driver's meeting or they will not be allowed to run.

Cost is $20. All competitors will be scored in the series points, therefor there is a $5 surcharge for ALL competitors not series registered. There is also a discount of WOSCA members (all paid wosca members are expected to marshal).

No course marshaling will be required, however volunteers are greatly appreciated. If time allows, fun runs will be $1 each, however any competitor that has helped course marshal at least once will get free fun runs.

Food and bathrooms will available on site inside the air conditioned mall. Lunch at "Carol's Cafe" runs less than $7 and includes a fresh sandwich, soup and a drink. The special of the day will be anounced at the driver's meeting. Gas and all other services are located within 5 minutes.

http://www.wosca.com/Event_info/blandfordmap.gif

andrew1984

06-28-2003, 09:18 AM

cool :thumbsup:

JoeT

06-28-2003, 11:41 AM

I'm there...

Hey Marsh, who's gonna design the course? Hopefully it will be wide enough for us "Boat" drivers.

Of course, I'm only thinking about my other colleagues, like the guy that races an Honda Accord, Ben in the Firechicken... :p

See ya there.

maddindian

06-28-2003, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by JoeT
I'm there...

Hey Marsh, who's gonna design the course? Hopefully it will be wide enough for us "Boat" drivers.

Of course, I'm only thinking about my other colleagues, like the guy that races an Honda Accord, Ben in the Firechicken... :p

See ya there.
If you Legacy is a boat, then my Maxima must be the Titanic!! :p

How far is Woodstock from Scarborough?

haniforama

06-28-2003, 01:36 PM

The exit for Blanford Mall is #238.

Scarborough is approx 375-385.

Do some math, and it's approx 140kms on the 401.

The Mall is directly off of the highway in Wopodstock, so add you time to the 401 and take into account 140kms on the 401.

Hanif

7plymaple

06-28-2003, 02:11 PM

From Morningside & 401 in Scarborough it takes me about 1hr 45 minuts to get to Blanford Mall.

gatherer

06-28-2003, 03:45 PM

wow this should be a great event ... can't wait ....

JoeT

06-28-2003, 04:11 PM

Wosca knows how to put on a great event. At one of the spring warm ups, we actually were able to change a 1 lap solo to a 2 lap solo, simply by asking.

They really do cater to the racers. Great people, great event, great fun... And then there's Marsh... That's another story. ;)

Madindian,

Thanks for the video of my car. You got my "Brain Fart" run... LOL

See you out there.

maddindian

06-28-2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by JoeT
Wosca knows how to put on a great event. At one of the spring warm ups, we actually were able to change a 1 lap solo to a 2 lap solo, simply by asking.

They really do cater to the racers. Great people, great event, great fun... And then there's Marsh... That's another story. ;)

Madindian,

Thanks for the video of my car. You got my "Brain Fart" run... LOL

See you out there.
No problem. It was a pleasure watching you run and listening to your turbo spool and blow off valve releasing pressure! :)

I definately want a ride-along in your car man!

superdave

06-28-2003, 08:48 PM

I need to make this event.. or I won't have enough points for the season! :( Stupid car breaking.

Marsh

06-29-2003, 07:21 AM

I'll be making the course. It will likely be just a tiny bit tighter than other WOSCA courses at that lot.

JoeT

06-29-2003, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Marsh
I'll be making the course. It will likely be just a tiny bit tighter than other WOSCA courses at that lot.

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!! :eek:

haniforama

06-29-2003, 08:39 AM

If Marsh is designing, it has to be "ATTS" approved :D

JoeT

06-29-2003, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by haniforama
If Marsh is designing, it has to be "ATTS" approved :D

He usually turns that off....

Marsh,

Not tighter please, at least make it the same as the regular WOSCA type of layout... Pllllleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeeeee!!

Marsh

06-29-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by JoeT
He usually turns that off....

Marsh,

Not tighter please, at least make it the same as the regular WOSCA type of layout... Pllllleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeeeee!!

No, actually Joe I'm pretty certain the car is faster with it. It works much like limited slip and allows me to get on the throttle VERY early.

Too bad you weren't at the event today, you would have kicked a$$. I don't have the results yet, but I'm pretty sure Tony won. It will be a little slower than today, similar to HADA, or likely a little faster. The problem is course length. If I make it two laps it will take too long, if I make it one lap I have to slow it down to keep the times over 30 seconds. There will be one or two tight spots, the rest will be normal WOSCA. I'll post a course map before the event.

JoeT

06-29-2003, 09:55 PM

Make it a 2 lapper, but the 2nd lap can be 1/2 the course. That should keep it in the 40 second range.

Looking forward to next week... Keep it fast please!!! Begging!!!

super seven

06-29-2003, 10:14 PM

I'll be there Marsh. Ron and Bob are you guys coming too?
Robert

StewPiddass

06-29-2003, 11:51 PM

Tight works for me and my underPOWERED by HONDA beast Marsh!

I counted 180km from exit 238 to my place in Barrie today, I'm gonna hafta get up early on Sunday!

JoeT

06-29-2003, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by StewPiddass
Tight works for me and my underPOWERED by HONDA beast Marsh!

I counted 180km from exit 238 to my place in Barrie today, I'm gonna hafta get up early on Sunday!

Don't listen to Tod... With a name like Stew****** how can you take him seriously... LOL :p

He's still delerious from the long drive....

StewPiddass

06-30-2003, 01:24 AM

You got that right Joe, it's a long drive from Sarnia to Barrie, especially with that damn speed limiter... you know, the one in the passenger seat! LOL

Ron

07-03-2003, 02:19 PM

Rob,

I will be there Sunday, along with Terry, so we should have a filled class. We will be bringing my seven, although Kevin and Terry got to the bottom of the dwarf car woes. The low oil pressure cut off switch for the fuel pump was toast, so we had zip fuel pressure. We're hoping to do some more driver ergonomic improvements before the next PITL, where the dwarf will come out again. I think this has been an intermittant problem since the last regional last year.

Ron

super seven

07-03-2003, 08:10 PM

Good to see there Ron and Terry. Now we just need Bob to show up too.
Robert

spoonie

07-06-2003, 06:57 PM

what a kick-ass event. thx to the organizers etc. it feels good to see progress in my driving 'skill'.

cheers,
~spoonie

Keith-02Accord

07-06-2003, 07:13 PM

Wish I would have gone, but unfortunately work must come first. :(

So anyways, who won C3 :p :rolleyes:

ice/solo racer

07-06-2003, 09:10 PM

Who won BSS?I'm kinda hoping for a non-series registered winner!:)

Tony Kloosterma

07-06-2003, 09:48 PM

I believe it was steven tong in his mini
And yes he beat the bsp guys again to the best of my knowledge ( I left with about 30 cars to go)

Tony

StewPiddass

07-06-2003, 09:52 PM

Yup, there's even propositioning going on when you're not there Tom... Where were you anyway, we missed you.

Lotsa cars, well run event, need wider tires.

Anyone know who was responsible for the 2 little ones that spent the day in our tent?

superdave

07-07-2003, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by StewPiddass
Lotsa cars, well run event, need wider tires.

You mean 175's aren't wide enough???? :p

JAYh

07-07-2003, 12:18 AM

As usual it was a fun event. I only did three runs (one of them in a Miata) but I didn't mind the course. Tight and tricky but doable... Although I can imagine it wasn't much fun for the V8s and WRXes. I would say some more open bits would have even things out... Maybe extending the "little loop" to past the second lamppost with a big straight or fast slalom. Then again I have no horsepower so what do I know?

BTW... Miatas are faster than Mirages. Okay, I admit it. That is, until the super-Rage is complete. >:) Thanks for the run Yvan. :D

- J

spoonie

07-07-2003, 09:44 AM

question - do the results show in bss whether you ran on street rubber or r compound?

~spoonie

Yvan

07-07-2003, 11:05 AM

Spoonie,

No, tire type plays no role in 2003 rules. It is recorded on the registration form only because the form is based on last year's.

spoonie

07-07-2003, 11:08 AM

so basically i'm losing 2 seconds in bss as the sticky tires are considered a free mod? just asking, not complaining :)

~spoonie

Yvan

07-07-2003, 11:26 AM

Yes. Up until last year there used to be a 2% bonus for street tires. It didn't quite make up for the difference (3-5% is more realistic, depending on the tires) but it encouraged people into the sport.

I understand it was dropped because (a) it was too much of a hassle to keep track of who was and who wasn't running streets. (b) people were bad about making the declaration at registration, they wouldn't put the S on their car as per the rules, then would complain once the results were posted (c) many clubs software did not support the whole concept of street tire bonus so they would have to be calculated after the fact

kromkamp

07-07-2003, 12:08 PM

Great event, I had a good time - maybe next time the heat will let up just a little bit though...

Keith, thanks for not coming - that way I didnt have to deal with you propositioning C2 class again :)

OTOH, I may be dumb to complain about this, but I'm starting to think my car is mis-classed (the IS300 in C2). I've won the class both times I've been out - these have been my first two Solo2's ever, and I dont think I'm *that* good of a driver.

I'll keep enjoying it until they change it though...

Andy K.
PS: So, why did everyone take the change-box to the left on the 2nd pass? I would have thought the right was the best way to take it on the 2nd pass, but I confess I took it left both times because I saw everyone else doing it!! :)

Taylor

07-07-2003, 01:01 PM

I tried right the first run and it seemed to work okay but when you only have so many runs and it's for points I try not to do too much experimenting.

Basically left only required a little kink of the car, meanwhile right required a wide setup. logically you should want to get on the power earlier (right side) but when you watch the more experienced guys go through on the left.... :)

Yvan

07-07-2003, 01:29 PM

I tried both and found it made little difference. Two of my runs in different lanes were withing 0.05s of each other from what I recall.

Marsh

07-07-2003, 01:56 PM

I don't think it made much difference in my car, but after going left in the firebird, I think the right would have been faster in a high power car.

I was already to give up on option boxes, but several people told me that they really liked it last week so I used it again, and I'm very happy with the results. It seems every one (inlcuding my self) finished the event still unsure of which way was faster.

andrew1984

07-07-2003, 01:58 PM

left first time and right second time.

that was the quicker way IMO.

superdave

07-07-2003, 02:00 PM

During the walk through I came to the conclusion left-right would be quickest. First run I tried it and it seemed ok. I saw -lots- of people going left-left... I tried that and it seemed faster. More of a twich than anything going left the second time.

ice/solo racer

07-07-2003, 09:50 PM

Stewpiddass I had decided back when the schedule was posted that if I was to skip an event it would be the wosca event.Has nothing to do with the club or anything,its simply the furthest event from home for me.
I would've liked to attend but the timing worked out well to miss this event so a new clutch could be installed and try to have a little break in prior to the bronte event.Besides I took saturday and brought home my little road racer.

StewPiddass

07-08-2003, 10:08 PM

Bronte Event, aren't you gonna break it in @ TLMC this Saturday???

StewPiddass

07-08-2003, 10:09 PM

I'm in first place (ahead of Galos) in the points standings but if he gets too many FTD's (good for 1 bonus point), he'll pass me. I need someone else to get FTD!!!

ice/solo racer

07-09-2003, 05:22 PM

Stewpiddass with the intense competition in BSS I've decided to only run the regional events to limit the # of runs(heat cycles)on the khumo's and keep them as fresh as possible,should still be ok for the shootout.That assumes it'll be dry this year!
Besides I'm in the middle of a garage project at home and I've been working 12-14 hours a day between that and my real job.
I've been considering bringing my latest toy to try out,but I need some rims and tires other than the skinny little all season's the crx is currently rolling on.You wouldn't have any spares would you?.

Oh yeah,how fast is Galos this year-does the corolla have a shot at an FTD?

haniforama

07-09-2003, 06:00 PM

Tom,

You bring the beast, let me co-drive, and i'll supply the tires :)

HAnif

ice/solo racer

07-09-2003, 08:50 PM

Is there a twin lakes event this coming saturday?I have to head to Orillia to pick up the corolla so doing that event with the CRX is out.
Hanif I might consider that if you were coming to a TLMC event,the CRX is a B mod car and I'd not run it a regional.I have a good repore with the kart track owner up here and he'll let me rent the track by the hour for me to test and tune(I have to remount the seat-the guy musta been 7 feet tall!)that way I can run a bunch of laps and have more time to find any problems.

StewPiddass

07-09-2003, 09:48 PM

Yes there is an event this saturday... don't worry about classing, we only have FWD1 (under1.6), FWD2 (1.6 to 2.0) and FWD3 (2.0 and up). BMod car eh... which motor is in it? If it's not a B18 you can't come cuz you'll be in my class!!! LOL I need the points.