New advertising policy

[Black Shadow]

Seriously, is this really a big problem? I'm just a dumb banker, can someone explain it to me?

[Tashko]

CASC-OR runs the forum. CASC-OR has sponsors. They make the rules and when you have sponsors that pay money to advertise to a target audience the rules will be beneficial to the sponsors.

I guess the Non-Sponsor forum is the place to advertise rather than a sig...as long as you don't advertise something that a sponsor sells. The sponsors listed on the main page link are Toyo, Mobil, CSC, Mosport, Tirecraft, ASN, SAE, and Affirma. So, don't try to sell tires, oil, race tracks, IT, and anything CSC carries.

Just a fact of life.

[Maddog]

Then I guess Mobil 1 won't happy when I show up at the track this season. :rolleyes:

[jgardhouse@gmai]

*phew*
Good thing no CASC-OR sponsors deal in mail order brides :D


In all seriousness, I don't get it... Asking people not to have giant banner adds for XYZ seems reasonable, but no links (especially if its only one or two) seems a bit overkill.

[Mike Basden]

Well I don't know if I'm violating it or not, but I'm sure someone will complain regardless.

I have my own business where I supply crew services for professional teams (Grand-Am, IMSA and World-Challenge). It is a registered Canadian company, but I don't work in Canada; I don't even have a GST number for it. There is no competing sponsor in CASC and yet somehow by participating in the forum and having a signature with a link to my site this will likely be a problem(?).

Seems like someone is getting a little carried away. But if you want to use the CASC playground I guess you have to obey CASC rules. Whether they make sense to you or not.

[Admin]

Well I don't know if I'm violating it or not, but I'm sure someone will complain regardless.

I have my own business where I supply crew services for professional teams (Grand-Am, IMSA and World-Challenge). It is a registered Canadian company, but I don't work in Canada; I don't even have a GST number for it. There is no competing sponsor in CASC and yet somehow by participating in the forum and having a signature with a link to my site this will likely be a problem(?).

Seems like someone is getting a little carried away. But if you want to use the CASC playground I guess you have to obey CASC rules. Whether they make sense to you or not.Actually, your signature was the example of something which should be OK within the guidelines. Mike.

We aren't going to be the "signature police". We don't want to restrict members from promoting their own businesses or even their sponsors unless they conflict with a sponsor.

But when a sponsor raises a concern with a signature because it gives free advertising to one of their competitors, we have to respect that concern and ask the forum member to respect the commitment the sponsor has made. We don't think that's being unreasonable.

Thanks for your understanding.

CASC-OR Forum Administration

[John Powell]

Basically, the new policy makes sense except for one caveat. Most of the sponsors are located in the GTA, which means that those of us peasants who live out in the wilds of "the rest of Ontario" don't have much of an opportunity to patronize their establishments. In that case, if a poster with a business located outside of the GTA has a link to his web site, the GTA sponsors really can't object too strenuously as it's likely we wouldn't patronize them anyway, except maybe on the odd occasion we have other reasons to visit their area. In view of this, I suggest the policy should be amended to take this situation into account.

[Crusher45]

Basically, the new policy makes sense except for one caveat. Most of the sponsors are located in the GTA, which means that those of us peasants who live out in the wilds of "the rest of Ontario" don't have much of an opportunity to patronize their establishments. In that case, if a poster with a business located outside of the GTA has a link to his web site, the GTA sponsors really can't object too strenuously as it's likely we wouldn't patronize them anyway, except maybe on the odd occasion we have other reasons to visit their area. In view of this, I suggest the policy should be amended to take this situation into account.

John, all our sponsors have websites where you can order online. No need to get off that couch.

[John Powell]

John, all our sponsors have websites where you can order online. No need to get off that couch.

Dave, I guess I shouldn't have put that web cam in the living room. :rolleyes:


On-line works for some stuff, such as some parts and supplies, but not others, such as helmets and other safety gear which you need to try on for a fit. Also, the cost of shipping may make a local purchase a better buy even if the list price is a bit higher, and definitely a better buy if a local supplier is also a local club sponsor who gives discounts. And for us on the Eastern marches of our fair Province, if we do have to go out-of-town, Montreal is less than 90 minutes away, which sure beats a four hour plus drive to the GTA and having to stay overnight (unless you're a glutton for punishment). Now if CASC could encourage our sponsors to set up or licence an outlet in Ottawa, that'd be a different story, but until then ... :confused:

[Crusher45]

Dave, I guess I shouldn't have put that web cam in the living room. :rolleyes:


On-line works for some stuff, such as some parts and supplies, but not others, such as helmets and other safety gear which you need to try on for a fit. Also, the cost of shipping may make a local purchase a better buy even if the list price is a bit higher, and definitely a better buy if a local supplier is also a local club sponsor who gives discounts. And for us on the Eastern marches of our fair Province, if we do have to go out-of-town, Montreal is less than 90 minutes away, which sure beats a four hour plus drive to the GTA and having to stay overnight (unless you're a glutton for punishment). Now if CASC could encourage our sponsors to set up or licence an outlet in Ottawa, that'd be a different story, but until then ... :confused:

4 hours is nothing. I used to drive to Montreal from Toronto just for dinner and come home. Mmmmm Bar B Barn. I smell a road trip coming up.

But you're right about some things. I could suggest if the market is there that Powell Motorsports Supply could open up and support CASC drivers and crews. Now there's a solution. Get a small business grant from the Feds and province and your in business.

[pit now]

Hey Crusher
That sounds alot like Shortt's Motorsports Support , you know selling Leaf Racewear and Ont. sales rep. for Racing Radios and one of the sponsors of the OFFC

[John Powell]

4 hours is nothing. I used to drive to Montreal from Toronto just for dinner and come home. Mmmmm Bar B Barn. I smell a road trip coming up.

The Bar B Barn ... yeah ... mmmm. :D But as for doing it as a day trip from TO, you must be younger than me, and have a better car to do it in. ;) What's the record for TO/MTL/TO these days? I seem to remember that back in the '60s the record was held by a lad in an 'E' Type at something like three hours each way. Of course that was before all the truck traffic we have now and the "speed kills" law, plus which I think he did it at night.

But you're right about some things. I could suggest if the market is there that Powell Motorsports Supply could open up and support CASC drivers and crews. Now there's a solution. Get a small business grant from the Feds and province and your in business.

If I was 20 years younger I'd probably consider that, but given certain other considerations, I don't think I'd use the name "Powell" unless I went back to the original Welsh name of Ap-Hywell. All that being said, it is a good idea if someone else is willing to take it on, especially if folks like CSC and Toronto Tirecraft are willing to licence dealers here.

[J.C.]

I noticed PRN is now listed as a sponsor and Inside Track is no longer there. :confused: When did this happen?

[Crusher45]

Hey Crusher
That sounds alot like Shortt's Motorsports Support , you know selling Leaf Racewear and Ont. sales rep. for Racing Radios and one of the sponsors of the OFFC

That's Gary not me.

John TO to MTL 3h22m on a normal day. Vehicle is a Dodge Mini Van.

Maybe one day someone will set up shop in Ottawa and save all the people there a trip now that Calabogie is so close. BUT the whole point is to try and support those who support us.

[pit now]

Crusher
you know how I do it,bring the product right to the track or have it sent to the drivers home.

[finboy]

instead of black flaging the non sponsors

why not push more sponsor advertising on the forum instead?

banners advertisements, dedicated sponsor threads .. that kind of stuff

[John Powell]

instead of black flaging the non sponsors

why not push more sponsor advertising on the forum instead?

banners advertisements, dedicated sponsor threads .. that kind of stuff

Good point. Just like our MCO forum, and the Swedespeed Volvo forum does it as well. :D

[Doug Phillips]

instead of black flaging the non sponsors

why not push more sponsor advertising on the forum instead?

banners advertisements, dedicated sponsor threads .. that kind of stuff

Not a bad idea considering there are apparently new sponsors that I cannot find anywhere on the websites (could be a me problem) and many people are still postig questions about where to find things that our current sponsors sell.

[tanney]

YEP, A big push of this season sponsors would be a great idea. People are making plans... Do I buy a case of Mobil 1 or Castrol? Do I subscribe to ITMN or PRN? Do I buy a helmet that my brother in law has had in his garage for 25 years or CSC Racing for a brand new one.

What happened to transparency? That was a big word used at the AGM in Novebmer that I had to look up in the dictionary.

[John Powell]

Yeah, "transparency" has lost its original meaning; its now become a NewSpeak word meaning "maybe we'll do something, sometime, somewhere, somehow, but we're not sure so don't hold your breath." :p