sulphur in fuel

[Logan]

Anyone know of anyplace to compare the amount of sulphur in brand X vs brand Y of gas? 91 octane or higher.

[gatherer]

like a web site???

I dunno but this sounds interesting

[AlienDNA]

Hmmmm, I couldn't find anything convenient, and I doubt there is anything convenient. The producers that have been aggressive in reducing their sulphur content (Sunoco, Irving) are fairly up front about their efforts to reduce sulphur, but they don't seem to advertise the content levels.

The producers who are the worst offenders (and the most intransigent with respect to implementing reductions, like IOL and P.Can) seem to rely on massive obfuscastion efforts.

This is a little dated, but you can try http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/cars/lowsulphurgas/

The links at the bottom of the page don't all work still, but they point you in the right direction.

For the lowest sulphur content, I'd suggest using Sunoco Ultra 94. Sunoco claims to have the lowest sulphur content of any refiner in Ontario (see this) (http://www.sunoco.ca/content.asp?id=125) and the ethanol content only serves to further reduce sulphur. I think Pioneer has an ethanol blend as well, but I wouldn't vouch for the quality of the base gasoline.

[Logan]

...another good reason to spend the money at sunoco.

Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumour that pioneer 93 is sunoco 94?

Eric, what makes you think Petro-Can is one of the worst offenders?

You may find this (http://www.cvma.ca/News/CleanGasoline.html) interesting.

[MiG-29 Foxbat]

Hmm, I was expecting Mashall to reply to this thread by now...

I believe this analysis was part of the 2nd yr Mech Eng curriculum at McMaster. Therefore, I would expect other PEO accredited Ontario universities to be the same.

Try phoning up a university or asking a friend enrolled in Mech Eng.

BTW, I'm surprised there's hardly anything on the web about this.

[Chris91GT]

Wasn't a part of my mech program at Mac...

Sulphur content will vary depending on which refinery produced it. Within the next year sulphur content in all of the fuels will drop dramatically with the new legislation.

[MiG-29 Foxbat]

Originally posted by Chris91GT
Wasn't a part of my mech program at Mac...


Hey Mac, is Dr. Judd still there? The old one, unless his son finally managed to get his thesis listened to!

I did that analysis as part of one of Dr. Judd's labs.

Logan, maybe a race team might be able to help. Or try Cambridge Materials and Testing for help.

[AlienDNA]

Originally posted by Logan
...another good reason to spend the money at sunoco.

Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumour that pioneer 93 is sunoco 94?

Eric, what makes you think Petro-Can is one of the worst offenders?


Petro-Can was only slightly better than IOL in this (http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/cars/lowsulphurgas/table.html) analysis. Of course, it's a little old...

[Chris91GT]

Originally posted by MiG-29 Foxbat
Hey Mac, is Dr. Judd still there? The old one, unless his son finally managed to get his thesis listened to!

I did that analysis as part of one of Dr. Judd's labs.


Judd is still around... only because they can't find anyone else to teach heat transfer. :)

[roooo]

I don't think my engine likes high ethanol content gasoline. I find it feels like it has better power with the new Shell 91 formula instead of Sunoco 94. But that could be either octane level or ethanol content. Haven't tried Sunoco 91 lately .. no stations close to me.

[rainman]

Originally posted by Logan
...another good reason to spend the money at sunoco.

Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumour that pioneer 93 is sunoco 94?

Eric, what makes you think Petro-Can is one of the worst offenders?

You may find this (http://www.cvma.ca/News/CleanGasoline.html) interesting.

They definitely have a close relationship - check out the Sunoco website and you'll see references to Pioneer stations:
http://www.sunoco.ca/content.asp?id=4