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andrew1984
11-10-2003, 12:30 PM
what times have you run at mosport? (big track)

just out of curiosity...

miataboi
11-10-2003, 01:29 PM
Some good drivin', there Andrew!
What a neutral car! Feels closer to 2000 lbs than 3000 lbs... when YOU drive it!

The custom valved Penske shocks and proprietary tire compound can't hurt... not to mention the carbon fible beetle body panels and that it's an acid-dipped and seam-welded car...

BUT STILL!

andrew1984
11-10-2003, 01:36 PM
thanks dude.


its was COLD eh?!

-1*C me thinks..

Martini Focus
11-10-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by andrew1984
what times have you run at mosport? (big track)

just out of curiosity...

Faster than you :D All your VW's are belong to us.
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Oh look I was dreaming all along.:rolleyes:
Big track scares me after last springs incident. Just a tip don't brake in 2 it upsets the car not to mention the driver.:rolleyes:

andrew1984
11-10-2003, 02:30 PM
turn 2 is pretty wild.

i go so slow through there its embarrasing.

i LOVE turn 5a&b.

andrew1984
11-10-2003, 03:28 PM
oh yeah, read em and weap.


2001 New Beetle.

Lift:
742 lbs. @ 124 mph
Aero. Balance @ 124 mph:
F: 332 lbs.
R: 411 lbs

taken from : http://www.mulsannescorner.com/data.htm


P.S- are you afraid? Bahahahhaa.... oh thats soooo sad. :o .. 742lbs of LIFT....

Martini Focus
11-10-2003, 03:44 PM
I guess they figure nobody would drive a car near that fast... well one that comes with a flower holder that is.:p :D

andrew1984
11-10-2003, 03:45 PM
actually, thats an option. mine came with BOOST.

Martini Focus
11-10-2003, 03:49 PM
Flower power baby yaaa. :D

I'm not sure I would worry about that lift with as much as the car weights. That's why I like the Focus big, fat and heavy as a tank.

andrew1984
11-10-2003, 04:02 PM
i could only get the bug to hit 175 down the straight just over the last crest into the braking zone.


i was still able to manage 1:53's in -1 weather.

JGraves
11-10-2003, 06:01 PM
I've run approx 1:55's my first time ever at the big track with the Miata in street trim, on V700s and being a pussy. My second time on the track and first time ever driving John Powell's '83 RX-7, I was running consistant 1:40.6 to 1:41.0 after a dozen laps.

msix
11-10-2003, 08:52 PM
Earlier this year someone was timming a few people with a stopwatch and told me that I was running a few laps in the 1:48..

My car, 85 BMW 325es
Stock Suspension
Toyo RA-1 tires
weight: about 3680lbs (I guess it's time to do some trimming)

Top speed at the backstraight is about 185 km/h, just not long enough to get it into 5th gear,

I am trying now to get into corner 4 without braking, just a little lift, but usually I have to tapp the brake a little ( I guess the holy $hit factor), so the bottom of 4 I am going about 155 km/h. Next year, with a new and better suspension, I should be able to do this without problems.
Into corner 2 with about 120, out of 2 about 150.
I just love corner 2, the feeling you get going over the bump after the first apex and you find yourself all of a sudden 5ft more to the right....

Only about 180 more days to wait to do it again.....

Klaus

TFGR
11-11-2003, 01:10 AM
Hey Andrew,
Did a 1:54 first time out, second lap in the GTI.
Best I've done in the GTI was 1:48 something
Best ever (in a GT2) was 1:46.

There is some time to be had in turns 1, 3, 4, 5A and 9.
straightline 4-5A and 8-9....that always makes me smile!

andrew1984
11-11-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by TFGR
Hey Andrew,
Did a 1:54 first time out, second lap in the GTI.
Best I've done in the GTI was 1:48 something
Best ever (in a GT2) was 1:46.

There is some time to be had in turns 1, 3, 4, 5A and 9.
straightline 4-5A and 8-9....that always makes me smile!


i feel that my times were good. (1:53)

-1 temps. first time out, check engine light, and limp mode all the way home. man i started to get alot of surging. i was on road race compound hoosiers, so they werent exactly sticking if you know what i mean. 0.2 degrees of negative front camber sucks too, but now i just sound like im whining ;)

its not very inspiring when you tackle mosport for the first time and there is snow/ice all over the track... :eek:

Chris91GT
11-11-2003, 08:54 AM
The best time that I've seen from the in-car vid is a 1:39.xx with 1:40s consistently. Discovered that my brake master cyl is leaking internally as the pedal drops up the back straight and approaching 5. Real confidence inspiring. LOL! This never showed up in Solo since there's never time for the pressure to leak down on the S1 tracks.

Top speed into 8 was 220.

Triumphracer
11-11-2003, 09:23 AM
I was out with Jeff's Miata and Chris' Mustang on June 30th.
I unfortunately bent a swing arm nudging the wall at turn 2 (backwards), which affected my alignment, but I did 2:02.

With only 84rwhp I think I did about 95mph at the top of the straight, the speedo says 110 but with the low profile tyres and speedo error its obviously less.

Should be 1:58 with more laps!
Simon, 1965 TR4A.

Nissan Racer
11-11-2003, 09:36 AM
The AFSSC Sentras do 1:47 on average, the better drivers get into the low 1:46's high 1:45's and Robb Smith got down to the 1:44's all in pretty much a stock 1.8L Sentra.

miataboi
11-11-2003, 10:11 AM
at those temps.... it's hard to compare...

The only tire that got even a BIT warm... on the blowtorch was the left-rear... and it was very warm!!!

NOT because he was swinging it out there and hangin' it loose...

BUT BECAUSE OF THE TURBO EXHAUST TEMPS because the exhaust is on that side!!!!!!

I'm not sheitting you!
Built-in tire warmer!!! SERIOUSLY!!!

Never seen that before!

Mosport times are about risk / reward and size of cajones!
The places where you make up the most time... are the ones that are the most "risky" (corner 2, 6, etc)

In the super cold... it was VERY HARD to push it beyond the "hump" in the 440 HP Audi S4 that I was in... (K04 turbos, etc)

We were in the 220 - 230 km/h range... and at that speed... in the cold... you kind of want to be able to slow the car down for the corner... The owner said that he can NORMALLY brake on the other side of the hump... but not in the <4* temp range!!! So that eats up a bunch of time...

Chris91GT
11-11-2003, 12:35 PM
Breaking before the hump is risky, given that the front end gets just a weee bit light over the crest at 220+. But obviously one needs to be able to make the corner. LOL

In better weather on good rubber braking can usually occur halfway between the crest and the turn-in.

andrew1984
11-11-2003, 08:51 PM
the air around the tire was warm. and thats when we were parked.

at 100+ km it doesnt even reach the tire.

miataboi
11-13-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by andrew1984
oh yeah, read em and weap.

2001 New Beetle.
Lift:
742 lbs. @ 124 mph
Aero. Balance @ 124 mph:
F: 332 lbs.
R: 411 lbs

taken from : http://www.mulsannescorner.com/data.htm

P.S- are you afraid? Bahahahhaa.... oh thats soooo sad. :o .. 742lbs of LIFT....

DOOD!!!!
BE 100% TOTALLY CAREFUL TODAY!!! It's SUPER windy...
I did the math... and if you were to drive at 200 km/h+ ... and there's a gust of wind at 100km/h head-on... You will actually achieve lift-off!

:D :p

andrew1984
11-13-2003, 10:59 AM
hahaha.. thats ok. its being serviced as we speak. i think they finally found the cause for all my engine problems.

its a $23 part.. :rolleyes:

miataboi
11-13-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by andrew1984
hahaha.. thats ok. its being serviced as we speak. i think they finally found the cause for all my engine problems.

its a $23 part.. :rolleyes:

Was it the nut behind the wheel?

andrew1984
11-14-2003, 12:09 AM
well.... car came back. $23 hose was replaced.

apparently i had a boost leak which started off small (dont they all).

anyhow, the bug is feels ALOT more alive up top then ever.

better then buying a 480$ mass air flow.

GR8 Ride
11-14-2003, 08:50 AM
Best times at Mosport (that I have record of....):


1:37.680 in the dry, late September. AMB transponder (BMW race).

1:58.520 in the wet, again, late September. I think I can drop this time by 7 or 8 seconds yet again in the wet, but it was my first rain race at Mosport.



Pat

maxrpm
11-14-2003, 09:40 AM
Pat you forgot to tell them how much HP you have.;)

JGraves
11-14-2003, 09:42 AM
Pat, those are some impressive times. I ran a 2:01.893 in the same wet race you ran your 1:58.5 in. It was my first race ever and the first time driving that fast in wet conditions and traffic. I've done lapping and Solo 1 in the rain but the lack of visibility in the faster sections while in traffic surprised me. I know I could shave 6 or 8 seconds with a bit more experience in those conditions.

GR8 Ride
11-15-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by maxrpm
Pat you forgot to tell them how much HP you have.;)

Yes Sam, all of my 158 rwhp...and 2900 lbs. Ugh. However, the plan is to resolve both of those this year.

I think I've found an extra 100+ rwhp; hopefully we'll have that in place by January.

And I'm still looking to take those extra 200 lbs out of the car; that will be dependent upon the rules that the Touring Car championship comes out with this week.

I *think* I can get my times down to 1:34s on Toyo's at Mosport.



Pat