New TV show looking for you!!

[jackmac]

The exciting new TV series - TUNER TRANSFORMATION is actively seeking owners of Sport Compact vehicles to be featured on the show.

TUNER TRANSFORMATION is a new show airing on SPEED Channel in early 2004. It is based on an exciting new format specifically developed for the Sport Compact enthusiast.

Your car will be transformed into the ultimate tuner car by our experts; FOR FREE – HELLO, anybody listening!!!

Are you young, energetic, charismatic, NOT camera shy and available soon? If you own one of the following vehicles, please contact jackmac@tunertransformation.com

Lancer, RX8, Golf (‘99 up), 240SX, Focus (‘02 up), MINI Cooper S, Saturn (New), Civic (’98), A4 (99-‘02), CRX (newer), Neon (02 up)

Doesn’t make a difference to our experts if your car is now modified or not – they’ll probably start from a clean slate any ways, after all, they are experts!

Let me know why we should select you, and make you FAMOUS (not to mention your car). Don’t delay, time is running out…
Thank you,
Jack MacDonnell
(yes, the Datsun 280Z Solo 1/Targa guy)

[Chris P]

no luv for the 1st gen CRX's Jack, whats up ;)

[Keith-02Accord]

Wouldn't you like to show people what can be done with a 4-door Honda Accord? You have an A4 in there already, why not?

I personally think it would be cool :D

I'm thinking turbocharged H22A!

[JoeT]

No Luv for Subaru Family Sedans either. BTW: This family sedan frequently competes with the A4 (AWD).

Oh well.

[jackmac]

Originally posted by Chris P
no luv for the 1st gen CRX's Jack, whats up ;)

Chris - there's always the second half of the shooting schedule, anything's possible.
Jack

[Martini Focus]

I wonder what the qualifications are for their "experts".:rolleyes:

Since most people related to tuner show have the combined knowledge of dryer lint. But they do know all the dope slang terms man.

[jackmac]

Originally posted by JoeT
No Luv for Subaru Family Sedans either. BTW: This family sedan frequently competes with the A4 (AWD).

Oh well.

Joe, Yes lots of LUV for the WREX and the STi. They're on the slate for second half.
Cheers,
Jack

[jackmac]

Originally posted by Martini Focus
I wonder what the qualifications are for their "experts".:rolleyes:

Since most people related to tuner show have the combined knowledge of dryer lint. But they do know all the dope slang terms man.

Only way to know is to TUNE in man - catch my Drift!
Jack

[Martini Focus]

Originally posted by jackmac
Only way to know is to TUNE in man - catch my Drift!
Jack

Ok, if you want to feature the top show car in Canada for the past two years let me know. I don't think there is anything left to modify on it but it would make a good feature. Just PM me if your interested and I'll get you all the contact info.

[JoeT]

Originally posted by jackmac
Joe, Yes lots of LUV for the WREX and the STi. They're on the slate for second half.
Cheers,
Jack

What about the Legacy, have you seen pics of the new Legacy? 278 HP stock and in 2006 350 HP stock. Same weight as the WRX too.

[Nissan Racer]

Where's the Sentras? No Sr20 powered front drivers???

[Carguy]

OK, let's pick up a few key words...

Sport Compact - check!
Free ultumate tuning by experts - check!!!!!
Young, energetic, charismatic, NOT camera shy and available - umm 4 out of 5 ... check!?
Wrong demographic - strike 1 :rolleyes:
RSX Premium - strike 2 :eek:
Don't live in T.O. - strike 3 :mad:

Thanks for playing... :D

[Marsh]

So you'll take my well tuned championship winning car, and add a heavy stereo lots of useless lights, and engine mods that bump me 3 classes, while only adding 20hp for free. Gee where do I sign up?:rolleyes:

[ctheo]

I'm picturing the automotive version of "Trading Spaces". Am I close?

[andrew1984]

i knew i should have bought a golf!


oh man, i did! but wait, its not 99 and up!

oh, i wish i made the cool decision... :rolleyes:

[ice/solo racer]

Well I have a drift car-that should be enough to get me on tv!:D

Motor trend television had a segment on the d1 event last night,I could see myself doing that for sure.

[Nissan Racer]

Originally posted by Marsh
So you'll take my well tuned championship winning car, and add a heavy stereo lots of useless lights, and engine mods that bump me 3 classes, while only adding 20hp for free. Gee where do I sign up?:rolleyes:
Yeah, I noticed the term "tuner car" not "performance car" too..
But maybe you'll get a free "Powered by Pep Boys" sticker :D

[JAYh]

How come you guys will accept Saturns but not J-bodies? Man, that's harsh. For that matter you should get some K-cars and Omnis in there too!

Hey, there's an idea... J-body, K-car, Omni, Le Car, Festiva, VW Fox, Mitsu Cordia... Do the '80s underdogs!

THAT would be a show I would watch.

- J

[Dave]

Jack, congrats on the show! That's very exciting news. It's great to see another Canadian land a show on Speed Channel.
Best of luck with it and looking forward to seeing the first episode :)

Cheers,
Dave

[JoeT]

Originally posted by Nissan Racer
Yeah, I noticed the term "tuner car" not "performance car" too..
But maybe you'll get a free "Powered by Pep Boys" sticker :D


OMG... The term Tuner Car usually means different things to different people. I guess the blinders should be removed sometimes.

So, by definition, what does the Tuner Transformation do? Is it mounting Big Wings, Stereo, Chrome Wheels, and airbag suspensions?

If that's the case, I think that this topic is in the wrong forum. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the people here care more about performance than "Bling" (new word for RICE). Performance is defined as items that will make the car faster, quicker, for the application that it's intended to compete in, aka Solo II, in this case.

Disclaimer: Not meant to offend anyone, just asking for clarification.

Thankie.

[Nissan Racer]

Originally posted by JoeT
OMG... The term Tuner Car usually means different things to different people. I guess the blinders should be removed sometimes.

So, by definition, what does the Tuner Transformation do? Is it mounting Big Wings, Stereo, Chrome Wheels, and airbag suspensions?

If that's the case, I think that this topic is in the wrong forum. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the people here care more about performance than "Bling" (new word for RICE). Performance is defined as items that will make the car faster, quicker, for the application that it's intended to compete in, aka Solo II, in this case.

Disclaimer: Not meant to offend anyone, just asking for clarification.

Thankie.
Don't for get "NAAAWWWSSSS"

[Chris P]

Jack has been involved in SOLO for quite some time, larger than most people on this board. I look forward to watching this show. I wouldn't mind hearing a little more about it and if you need a japanese style test driver i'm your man. :cool:

[Nissan Racer]

I'm sure some of this comes off as a bit nasty, but after being inundated with so many "tuner" shows that are geared towards "bling" eg..first engine mod on the Hi-Rev Tuner Focus was NOS, then proceed directly to the tv/playstation/dvd/cd/digital radio/small fusion reactor to power it all.
Most enthusiasts are growing tired of "tuner TV"
Hopefully this will be different.

[StewPiddass]

I'm with Marsh, don't need a bunch of useless rice, just bumps you a few classes with no gain. The wife's Protegé could use some tuning though... unless I replace it with the '03 Acura 3.2 TL Type-S I have my eye on, even better, it's already a heavy pig, 19" wheels and a body kit wouldn't bother me at all!!!

[Marsh]

It doesn't matter who Jack is. The market will not support a show where they actually do the correct things and make performance cars. The peasants want bling and that's what the peasents are going to get.

[Carguy]

Originally posted by Marsh
It doesn't matter who Jack is. The market will not support a show where they actually do the correct things and make performance cars. The peasants want bling and that's what the peasents are going to get.

I have to agree with Marsh. These shows are sponsored. Sponsors want to sell product. If bling or drifting (that's where I think the show is going) sells, then the sponsors are happy. They are looking for young, charismatic, energetic, not camera shy, etc... Not some pot bellied, unshaven, "seasoned" old fart with with a butt crack longer than his dick. The former sells, the latter doesn't.

Hmmm... How about a reality TV spinoff? Call it... Survivor - Grease Monkey Edition. The tuner tribe starts off with 12 tuners, all vying for the ultimate tuner ride. Immunity is granted to the one who can correctly identify the BOV, or the cat, or how much NOS it takes to blow through a piston. Just don't get voted out of the shop... Will the Mutt & Jeff alliance sabotage Cute Chick's torque settings? "Tune" in and watch the drama unfold... He, he, cameras and microphones everywhere to pick up the bl**ps and flying wrenches.

All joking aside I think the show should present tuning episodes for all facets of sport compact motorsports. Show cars including the audio/video/lights (if you really have to), drift build-up, drag, Solo I & II, rally, street tuning, and even all-out Speed WC build-up. My 2 cents.

Cheers!

[RacerRick]

You gotta do some old school also with new tech. This is stuff that me and my buddies actually have on the go.

I have a 69' Dodge with a stroker big block going in with twin turbos, Digital EFI, monster Intercooler, and should be looking at around 1000rwhp. Looks stock from the outside. Will run on pump gas, be fully streetable and street driven, and should run 9's when done without too much in the way of problems. The old motor has been pulled but this car is on the backburner while the Mullet gets built.

Or how about the Ford Supercoupe being built for Open Road Racing. Small block with digital EFI, a pair of turbos, intercooler, full aero mods, 6 speed transmission, front and rear independant suspension, full computer controlled dash, tuning, monitoring, and entertainment system, and 600+ rwhp. A chunk of the electronics is done and working, and the car is currently stripped of the interior for the new one. As soon as it gets to the shop, the real work begins.

Then of course there is the Mullet Camaro being build for Solo1, the Grassroots Motorsports $2004 Challange, and the Targa Newfoundland. But since it is a budget car meant for hardcore racing, I do not know if that is what you are looking for.

Oh, yeah - and I am a 27 year old guy, and not camera shy. I also build my own cars to perform, devoid of any "bling".

[John P]

Congratulations on the show, Jack. Wish you the best of luck.

I don't know all the details of your show, but it would be great if the show had a performance aspect to the car transformation. The audience may find it interesting to see some of the cars compete after the Transformation (eg. Solo, Road race, Drag race, Drift, Targa, Lapping). There is more to adding power to a car than putting it on a dyno to see bigger numbers. Many of the viewers want to drive fast or race but don't know of the available alternatives. If your show showed some of the cars competing in sanctioned events after their transformation it would show them some of those alternatives, improve our sport, and get the racers off the street.

By the way I have a 2000 Celica that could use a Transformation, but I would want to review the changes being made. You could use my son Chris on the show, if you need a younger guy.

John

[MitS]

Originally posted by Keith-02Accord
Wouldn't you like to show people what can be done with a 4-door Honda Accord? You have an A4 in there already, why not?

I personally think it would be cool :D

I'm thinking turbocharged H22A!

Peeps just dont understand the thrill of a 300hp compact family car! Gee, if I had bought a Golf instead of a Jetta I could have signed up. :(

Jettas can bling too!

[gatherer]

too bad a 93 civic hatch (in relatively good condition) isn't listed....

I'll wait to see the show before I comment on the term tuner...

this is going to be on speed channel who knows...

I hope it's on during the week nights because week ends are pretty busy for me

[Suzie]

Damn - if it's adding bling, it's too bad they won't accept Ford Windstars - the minivan could use some bling :cool:

Suzie

[jackmac]

Thank you all for your responses - even the boneheads. Man, some of you need to seek a couch for counseling.

For the rest of you, your curiosity will be satisfied when you tune in to the show in February. Thank you to the many who have contacted me directly expressing an interest in the show.

I can tell you confidently, the show will appeal to many and all you die-hard enthusiasts (even the boneheads) will be impressed.

Cheers folks.
Jack MacDonnell

[Chris P]

good to hear jack

[Nissan Racer]

I sinscerely hope this will be a cool show, but you have to admit the skepticism is understandable given the rather large amount of crappy shows dedicated to "tuner" imports. It sure would be nice to have a more performance oriented show.
Good luck!

[StewPiddass]

I agree, I hope it does well, just a little skeptical...

[ScotcH]

How about a shiny new 93 Legend coupe 6-speed (in for paint as we speak)? ... after it's retired from racing, of course :) Someone sell me a damn garage already so I can get a race car!

[J.C.]

Come on no one here really expects a tuner car, also known as "BLING" to have any serious performance for its class. Then again you did say you are using experts to setup these cars. :rolleyes:

[Cheers!]

Originally posted by Marsh
So you'll take my well tuned championship winning car, and add a heavy stereo lots of useless lights, and engine mods that bump me 3 classes, while only adding 20hp for free. Gee where do I sign up?:rolleyes:

Ne1 see the first show, I feel sorry for the rx8...
I especially love the comment, we need a stereo to mask the drone of a rotary engine... WTF?!?!!!!??

I also don't really see how replacing the stock mazda rx-8 discs with KVR cross drilled were a perfromance mod, maybe the upgraded pads and the stainless lines yes, but the comment about stainless lines increasing brake hydraulic pressure? err... not so sure about that one.

Maybe if they were really going with a brake kit a custom wilwood 4 or 6 pot caliper on custom brakets with proportioning valve would've been a good idea.

In my opinion you dont' need to replace the brakes unless you are fading the crap out of them after several laps at mosport, and it looks like the driver who owns the car isn't the type of races solo I or goes extensive lapping in the car.

Also why would you go with a nitrous kit without doing the simple mods first like headers, racing beat makes excellent headers.

Also what is the deal with the 19 inch wheels? they do not improve performance? why do u need a 19 inch wheel? It's not like they increased the brake rotor diameter such that an 18 inch wheel won't fit. ALso what did they do about the onboard tire pressure sensor in the stock wheel? i'm also willing to bet the 18 inch wheel is lighter then the 19 inch bling bling wheel.

The sport car revolution show was much better done which aired at 7:30 pm last night. They actually have good comemnts about modification. Too bad they won't talk about what happens when you pour 3000 dollars into your car and tell your insurance company.

[Martini Focus]

Originally posted by Cheers!
Ne1 see the first show, I feel sorry for the rx8...


Qualifies as the WORST show ever! Hey guys can I have the 30min of my life back that I wasted watching your show.

Couldn't even make it 15min before you installed the NOS... pathetic. Who would install 19" wheels a "big" brake upgrade but not lower the car?? Did you spend the entire budget on those really cool stickers? Or did you decided to keep it in 4x4 mode because it was winter?
:rolleyes:

[Cheers!]

Poor rx8...

[John P]

Hey Jack, you guys need a script writer. What is with all the arguing about trivial stuff like stripes, and going into a huff over something so trivial. You guys were getting upset for no reason at all. There was no reason given why people were sticking to their guns. I want stripes because??? I don't want stripes because??? Get a new script writer or get off the air.

John

[Director]

Originally posted by jackmac
Thank you all for your responses - even the boneheads. Man, some of you need to seek a couch for counseling.

For the rest of you, your curiosity will be satisfied when you tune in to the show in February. Thank you to the many who have contacted me directly expressing an interest in the show.

I can tell you confidently, the show will appeal to many and all you die-hard enthusiasts (even the boneheads) will be impressed.

Cheers folks.
Jack MacDonnell

Jack,
Best of luck with the show. Any and all exposure to the Canadian marketplace is great news for us. If some think the show is a little to bling bling, well that's too bad, because that's where about 200 million+ in aftermarket sales goes each year. I wish I had a fraction of that market. If you're going to be displaying how things can be done, great. I don't mind a Canadian version of Monster Garage with the vehicle coming out the other end with an actual purpose. For the ones that don't care for it, fine that's why the TV came with a remote.
I've found in my position ith CASC-OR you're going to get a vocal minority that won't approve, but the silent majority support is strong.
As for future transformations, I think transfoming a street tuned car (whatever make or model) and transforming it to a full track car would make a great episode. Fell free to contact me if we at CASC-OR can assist in finding you vehicles or willing participants.

[Marsh]

I hate to say it, but I told you so....

No wait, I like say that.

[roooo]

Nice "Dunlop" tires .. oh wait, weren't they actually Yokohama ES-100? :rolleyes:

I hope the following episodes increase the budget 10-fold to use on quality parts, and maybe the guys will have time to do some research and learn about the car they're modding.

"Could not source a bodykit" .... :confused:
There is a Mazdaspeed kit that is on all the RX-8's running the GrandAm Cup series .. that is available from Mazda, how could you at least not put that kit on? Aside from that there are many companies in Japan making products for the RX-8. (AutoExe, RE-Amemia, etc, etc)

Not a very strong showing out of the gates.
Hopefully it can be improved.

[Robv]

Hmm, maybe they can help me finish my Subaru EJ25 powered 1970 VW Beetle project ?

The car looks like crap, but at least its got Enkei rims !!!
Oh wait, they are only 15"....

:)

[bermuda20b]

Jack,

Word of advise about your guys mouthing off about common 92 rx7's....they didn't make any in 1992...they were rebadged 91's!!!

Here are some pics of my 'common' 94 20b rx7. 690 rwhp out of 2 litres...lets go!!!

There are roughly 2 dozen of these cars in the US and Canada, I am sure that it is too common for you guys but for me it is rare.

later
earl

http://ca.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sailingbermuda/lst?.dir=/car&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//ca.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/

[max attack]

Almost sounds like your saying"here's a pic of my 20B letting go!".13B's do blow up ALOT,not sure about the 20b's however;)

[Cheers!]

Originally posted by max attack
Almost sounds like your saying"here's a pic of my 20B letting go!".13B's do blow up ALOT,not sure about the 20b's however;)

who said 13Bs blow up a lot? i've got 190,000 kms on my original turbo, and engine. I run her up to 12 psi too.

[JAYh]

Did Mazda stuff a 20b in there from the factory? Or is that a swap?

Either way - yikes!
Nice car! :D

- J

[bermuda20b]

The 20b is an import engine from jap land. The conversion is a big job.

NO I am not offering my car to these guys as my point was to state they should not be spouting off about cars they know nothing about.

13B's do not have a habbit of blowing up, they are very reliable engines unlike older rotary engines which did have problems.

[Marsh]

Tell that to the "WOSCA 13B Trailer gang". 3 RX7's in the club in the last 3 years. 3 RX7's needing or having new rotors. At our drag day the 2nd Gen didn't make it 30 ft on his first run. The 3rd gen arrived under it's own power and left on a flat bed. It hasn't moved since. (although in all fairness the 2nd Gen blow a driveline part not an engine... that was 2 years earlier)

[max attack]

Sorry but the twin turbo rotary in the 93+ RX7 is notorous for eating apex seals when boost is bumped or overheated(which is easy apparently)and they can never ever run lean even for an instant or an apex seal is cooked.
Sounds like they alsoeat front main bearings,I've read that if you have one stock with more 100k on it you've done well/been lucky.

Having said that I'd like to find a 93+ with a bad engine for a good price and put something like those pics on this forum last year-he got pissy about blowing them up and put a corvette engine in instead;)

[max attack]

I just finished watching a reairing of that street racing bio on toronto street racer's-take a wild guess which car blew up on the dyno?

[bermuda20b]

You hit the nail on the head about the engines. They DO blow up when people abuse them and don't look after them. That is not a flaw in the engine, it is a flaw in then person beating on the car.

A properly tuned and maintained 13b is no less reliable than a bong bong engine.

Tell me, what are the main bearings in a rotary engine connected to? You almost make it sound like there is a crank shaft there somewhere and of course we all know there is no crank shaft in a rotary engine.:D

[soloZ]

Hehe so is the Block connected to the drive shaft then?

[bermuda20b]

hehe sorry solo,

A rotary does not have a crack, pistons, con rods, valves, cam or other such stuff.

I don't mean to jump all over you but do some reading and then tell me how the rotary engine works, until then don't make smart ass uninformed comments.

[Greg F]

Originally posted by max attack
I just finished watching a reairing of that street racing bio on toronto street racer's-take a wild guess which car blew up on the dyno?

Ummm, the one that was putting out the most horsepower per litre by a huge margin?

Is F1 still using the 3.5 litre engine? Assuming one gets 900 hp, then it's putting out 257 hp per litre.

By way of comparison, a stock '93 RX-7 puts out 196 hp per litre. The current Jap spec. ones put out way more than that.

Peter Farrell Supercars and others can easily build a 360 hp '93 RX-7 with stock internals. That's 277 hp per litre!

Adam Saruwatari, drag racer, has managed over 634 rwhp from his 13B. That's 488 rwhp per litre. Not too shabby.

(Even if the 13B is viewed as a 2.6 litre engine, the numbers are still impressive, especially considering Abel Ibarra, another drag racer, has gotten over 798 rwhp from his 13B.)

Considering Mazda are the only company producing the rotary engine--and there are apparently only thirty or so engineers doing the job--their results are quite impressive.

I keep dreaming of the day when Mazda will make it to F1...:rolleyes:

--------------

Ryan, the rotary engine doesn't have a crankshaft, but it does have an eccentric shaft, which to me looks much like a crankshaft. :p

20B, I like that car! I wish I had unlimited funds, so I could buy the Pettit Racing 3-rotor Banzai RX-7! Hey, there's a car for Gran Turismo 5!

[soloZ]

Originally posted by bermuda20b
hehe sorry solo,

A rotary does not have a crack, pistons, con rods, valves, cam or other such stuff.

I don't mean to jump all over you but do some reading and then tell me how the rotary engine works, until then don't make smart ass uninformed comments.

Ha I was making a freakin joke I know they don't have valves,pistons,etc etc. Oh and do Piston engines have crack in them? because you say rotarys don't.

[Nissan Racer]

Just say "NO!" to crack!!!:D

[bermuda20b]

Whatever kid.

You have seen my ride, lets see yours.

[J.C.]

Originally posted by bermuda20b
Whatever kid.

You have seen my ride, lets see yours.


FYI this is not a car fan site this is a racers forum. The average age on here is not 16 but closer to 30.



As for me I thought the show was fun to watch. (but I did not take it seriously) I really liked that idea Jeff tried to convey on the 7:30pm show. The idea that its best to get the racing off the streets and take it to the track was stressed and that deserves praise.

[glh]

As I said in the other post the best mod done to that RX8 was that those clowns washed the car other than that I wouldn't let them near my car. Oh ya the chicky shaking her ass was all right.
steve

[bermuda20b]

I race my car in Nevada, Texas, and Mexico so I consider myself a racer. Granted I am not the smartest person as I spend 40K a year on the car to win a $20 trophy but I do get out and enjoy it.

I told the kid that I was not to take it personally when I replied.

I am glad the show had a message of getting racing off the street as that is probably the most dangerous place you can race. Anyways, enough about this subject and back on to cars as that is why we are all here.

[Nissan Racer]

Lol...Ryan a kid...thats funny...I guess being a class champion really doesn't count for squat...you punk you

[bermuda20b]

I have been racing cars for 30 years which I am told is the average age on this board. That makes a lot of you kids.
:D :D :D

[malcolm]

now me on the other hand, I am still just a good-for-nothing punk of a kid... haha... only 19... ;) (20 in less than a month though!)

wait, what was this thread about again? this off-topic tangent has gone so far I can't see the original curve from here! :D

[soloZ]

No I don't think he ment racing years, I think he ment age. I am actually 26 and I have been racing the last four years with a couple class titles and decent overall standings. I have also been around racing since I was born and I am an apprentice in a gm program. So I do know about cars and I have studied alot I was only taking a "crack" at what you said or somebody else said.

So we don't need a Fast and the Furious attitude from people here.

P.s I really didn't like either of those ghey movies

[malcolm]

well, in that case, I just finished my tenth year of racing... 6 in karting, 4 in road racing... :D

Still a few years away from veteran status... :P

[RacerRick]

Why don't we get together and make a show that we would actually want to watch if we don't like anything that is currently on.

Its not like its all that hard. Just can be very time consuming.

Shoot direct to digital on a broadcast quality 3ccd camera, edit on a non linear editing program on your home computer and voila - you have a speedvision quality show.

The way to make the production quality seem better is multiple camera's for easy cutaways, and a camera like a Canon GL2 or XL1 with the XLR mike inputs so you can use wireless mics on the talent and tape the sound directly the the camera. Lighting is important but cheap, and color correction can be done when the computer is editing.

I have most everything do do it and am actively looking for a good Camera.

[John P]

Shooting the show is the easy part Eric.

Speed won't take a show unless you have sponsors lined up for all the commercial space, that pay them for their effort. If you can find the sponsors, you should have enough money in the package to cover you team's time and a good camera or two.

Also you need ideas for a viable show, a location that is presentable, script, Tuner parts and the time to put it all together.

John

[RacerRick]

I know I could make a decent show if I was so inclined with decent production values on a ridiculously small budget.

I also fully admit I know very little about marketing or selling the show before it is completed - the raising investors part I have never done.

I do know that if you have a half or full season of edited half hour format shows, its not that hard to sell the completed product to a cable channel, even if they will use it for late night filler. A completed product that they can see is much easier to sell than a concept. Especially with no "name" talent, and a production company with no track record. The fact that they have a dozen or so already completed episodes to stick in holes in their programming already in front of them is very appealing. Especially if the selling price is cheap since they do have a programming budget.

Cable stations are pretty hard up for inexpensive programming. The only thing is that you are not going to make much, if any money on it if it is made in the traditional way since production costs will eat up a ton of money. These little genre programs sell for very little from what I understand.

But if you make it, and put some creative effort into it, it will turn out decent. So, for people who complain about other peoples shows - if you think you can do better, do it! For $10,000 you will own everything you need to do a complete season of shows. And most people already own half the equipment. Rent a decent camera or two and get going.

[spoonie]

well, if anyone wants music for a show i'll do all of it.

in fact, if tuner transformation wants to get rid of their generic music i'd be happy to pitch in.

~spoonie

[rainman]

Originally posted by John P
Speed won't take a show unless you have sponsors lined up for all the commercial space, that pay them for their effort.

If that was true, many people like myself would be out of a job. I think the programme has to fill a few criteria from the station programming and marketing point of views before it will be added to a season's schedule:

- does the programme's content fit into the network's programming mandate?
- will the target demo of the show fill a space in the schedule that is currently lacking (Men18-24, 25-34, etc.)?
- is there a space in the schedule to slot it in to justify the cost of the programme and anticipated revenue it will generate?
- will the programme generate enough audience to merchandise back to advertisers?

[miataboi]

Anyone ELSE notice that Jack Mac (the Suspension guru) had coilovers for the 240 drift machine whose springs were rated in "p.s.i."
???

:confused:

That MUST be some crazy JDM special sheite!
:p

[rainman]

Yup - 350 psi to be exact :p

[Marsh]

Yea I liked that too. I wonder how much suspension experience that guy has, because I've got a reasonable amount, I can't figure out how to get my springs to displace in square inches. :confused:

[Dave]

LOL...yeah, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard "psi" come out of Jack's mouth. He's a long-time Solo competitors, so he definitely knows better...all I can imagine is that he mis-spoke and they didn't have any way of reshooting the scene at a later date.