View Full Version : touring car weight
jr racing
01-18-2004, 07:10 PM
hello,
This post is regaurds to the weight of my race car.
over the winter it seems like I lost about 1000 pounds. I dont really feel comfortable bolting 1000 pounds of lead to my car. Do you guys have any alternate solutions. It is a touring-gt car.
Thanks
John Powell
01-18-2004, 10:34 PM
It'd be nice to have a little more info, such as the make of car, state of preparation, and the before and after weights. Although, a difference of 1000 lbs. seems like a lot for any car. :confused:
Doug P
01-18-2004, 11:09 PM
Put the motor back in. :D
jr racing
01-18-2004, 11:14 PM
The car is ready to rock
rmicroys
01-19-2004, 09:54 AM
Do the same trick that was done for the B6 Stealth when they were asked to put a few hundred pounds in their car. They just bolted a HUGE steel plate to the bottom of the car. That's where you want it. Don't mount it IN the car, mount it UNDER the car. Don't call it ballast, it's your skid plate! I'm sure you can find a way to properly secure a 1000lb steel plate to the underside of your car.
Out of total curiosity, year/make/model/class/engine/etc?
Chris P
01-19-2004, 06:11 PM
1000lbs? Thats insane. Go find a new shell.
Obviously more details and clarification is required for a useful reponse.
23Racer
01-20-2004, 08:33 AM
There must be some kind of confusion on the weights. If we took the heaviest touring car weight, a Nissan Maxima at 2750 lbs with driver, and assuming that you weigh at a minimum 160 lbs fully dressed, your car would need to weigh 1590 lbs. This car must be made of unobtanium to get that low. On the other hand if it is a tube chassis car it is automatically a GT car and on a different set of rules.
Just trying to help and it would be better for everyone if you could give us some further information.
slucas
01-20-2004, 09:09 AM
2750-160=2590. I'm thinking your 1590 figure to be a missprint but yes, 2590 lbs will be very difficult /expensive to meet.Perhaps some of the other boys are right ; pick another platform. If it's your choice because you have one, get to work, and remember the lower you finish the lighter you get and the faster you go the closer you will get to your min. weight.
Maybe this weight thing isn't perfect
23Racer
01-20-2004, 09:54 AM
Scott, I meant 2750 - 160 - 1000 lbs = 1590 lbs. It is a real concern that if he says he needs to add 1000 lbs, that we understand the real problem. I know that some people on this site have more experience than me, but I don't understand how a tub based car can be 1000 lbs under a specified weight and still be a tub car. For your information a great number of the base weights used for the Touring GT Championship are based on SCCA Production class weights and even those guys have a really hard time getting down to those minimums.
If JR Racing is only 100 or 200 lbs under then it is relatively easy to add weight. A car that is 1000 lbs under is seriously mis-weighted in the specifications or has been modified beyond the intent of the rules.
slucas
01-20-2004, 10:46 AM
My guess is he's going to run a Caterham with the 2l. Vauxhall lump in it.:D
23Racer
01-20-2004, 11:44 AM
Now that would be cool :D . I read in my dearly departed and sorely missed Cars and Car Conversions that a Zetec lump on Individual Runners and programable was better, the Vauxhall was sooo yesterday. Actually they were really after the bike engined stuff, even some v8 engines based on the Hayabusa engine. Great stuff, thanks for the concept.
malcolm
01-20-2004, 06:12 PM
you do realize that he said "touring-gt" car, so it could be a GT car... I know the Corvette has to weigh something like 3000 lbs. We aren't keen on adding a few hundred pounds of lead and running on something other than free tires, so that's why we will likely not be racing in the TGTC next year... FAQ GT seems probable, with perhaps a few races in bigger events... still up in the air...
jr racing
01-20-2004, 06:50 PM
sorry there seemed to be a miss print the car is suppose to be 150 under.
thanks again
rmicroys
01-20-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by jr racing
sorry there seemed to be a miss print the car is suppose to be 150 under.
thanks again
Are you 150 under your base weight WITH driver?... then you have nothing to worry about. Unless you really figure you are ALWAYS going to finish in the top 5. If you finish in the top five, you will have to add weight at the season progresses. If you are 150lbs under, then carry the CASC-OR ballast, and remove weight after each race. Every time you finish 12th or lower, you can pull the max 40 lbs right back out! So in no time, if you aren't at the front, all that weight will be out. After the 4th race you may not be carrying any weight. That's my plan for the touring series. Carry 200lbs of ballast just to make base weight. I think that you have a great car (at least weight wise)... even though you haven't told us what it is yet.
jr racing
01-20-2004, 10:20 PM
Thanks for your reply Rob we appreciate the information.
scirocco53
01-21-2004, 09:43 AM
Am I the only one that has no idea what jr racing is talking about? What is the big secret about his car?
slucas
01-21-2004, 10:33 AM
Your not alone. JR Racing is an enigma.Who is he or she?What is the car?How did it loose 1000lbs in a few months?Is it touring or GT?Why is it supposed to be 150lbs. underweight? What does "ready to rock " really mean?Why should any of us care any more?
metric1
01-21-2004, 12:52 PM
it appears that jr racing is john dipchand. his contour is for sale under the same name on teutonic.
and may volkswagen continue to rule
jr racing
01-21-2004, 09:27 PM
yup i guess i am an enigma, who is asking you to care any ways.
and as far as the car there is no big secret I just havent decided which car I'am going to race.The thousand pounds was a miss post we are actually 150lbs under so what is the big deal.
rmicroys
01-22-2004, 08:53 AM
150 lbs is nothing. I'm going to have to carry probably 100lbs to make it to my base weight this year. At least I don't drive my car fast enough to be worried about adding rewards weight. :rolleyes:
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.