Class me Please!!!

[AndrewR]

This thread is for people to post in, and we can collectively class you in advance of an event.

Post car, year, engine.

Tires

suspension mods ie lowering springs/struts (type) sway bars

Engine mods

Anything that is different from stock and we will class you!

[briansexsmith]

Ok my car is a 1988 toyota mr2 supercharged

stock engine
over driven supercharger
running megasquirt (aftermarket ECU)
upgraded clutch with stock flywheel

Koni yellow shocks
sleeve over coilovers with springs

Willwood Brake calipers

I have not yet decided if I am going to run my toyo RA1's or my yokohama S-drives

What class am I in?

Thanks

[Kreutz73]

guessing you have bigger injectors too (megasquirt)
does it have the stock header?
do you have stock sway bars too?
what about weight reduction? removed/lightened panels or lights?

we've had lightly moded mr2's run in CSS before, if you have too many points you'll move up to CSP.

[Pete@SCB]

Ok my car is a 1988 toyota mr2 supercharged

stock engine
over driven supercharger
running megasquirt (aftermarket ECU)
upgraded clutch with stock flywheel

Koni yellow shocks
sleeve over coilovers with springs

Willwood Brake calipers
I have not yet decided if I am going to run my toyo RA1's or my yokohama S-drives

What class am I in?

Thanks

Paul, the brake change is a big no-no in Super Stock. If the calipers stay, the car moves to Street Prepared.

[Kreutz73]

crap... that's right. No mods to brakes allowed in SS. CSP aint so bad. :D

[briansexsmith]

yes I have a aftermarket bar
yes I have a aftermarket header

no I have stock injectors
no I have no weight reduction

will the class change if I am on toyo RA1's or yokohama S-drives?

Thanks

[KLZEMX6]

pretty sure the class would stay the same even if you were on hoosier a6's

[elementZ]

yes I have a aftermarket bar
yes I have a aftermarket header

no I have stock injectors
no I have no weight reduction

will the class change if I am on toyo RA1's or yokohama S-drives?

Thanks

the class (CSP) will not change if you run any of those tires.

however, if you run the s-drives, then you also have the option of going into ST2 (Street Tire Class)

[Pete@SCB]

Ok my car is a 1988 toyota mr2 supercharged

stock engine
over driven supercharger
running megasquirt (aftermarket ECU)
upgraded clutch with stock flywheel

Koni yellow shocks
sleeve over coilovers with springs

Willwood Brake calipers

I have not yet decided if I am going to run my toyo RA1's or my yokohama S-drives

What class am I in?

Thanks

I am not as familiar with the Street Tire classes as I am the others, but I am under the impression that changing the boost settings, with either software or the pulley as you have done is not allowed in those classes.

If you had no boost change, you could be eligible for ST, but with it, you are going to be in SP.

[briansexsmith]

I have had a boost change so I guess I am in SP no matter what tires I run.

[zerocool82]

Ok, need another opinion to confirm:

I previously ran in SS, but I have since put in an all aluminum rad (OEM has plastic tanks). I am hoping to stay in SS and not get bumped to SP.

Does this change qualify if I take these prep points?
xiii. Modification and/or substitution of any or all external engine components and/or accessories...Any alternate water pumps, alternators, cooling and oiling
systems (beyond allowable items)...

[Kreutz73]

is it the same size/capacity as oe? just with aluminum rail tanks instead of plastic ones?

[zerocool82]

Good question! I was under the impression it was the same size, but after some quick research turns out it has a 40mm core (OEM was 33mm). Other than that it was a direct fit and same overall dimensions.

I'm only out for fun at these events so I'd rather be classed right than deal with any issues. It's just nice to have a chance in my class though :)

[zerocool82]

Thanks for the insight. I think I will just run SP, gives me an excuse to do a few more things too! cheers

[redneckdzl]

I think i read the rules right but i wanted to clarify

2001 Jetta TDI

Bigger turbo, ECU programmed to run 22 PSI

It seems i can't run STU, is that right?

If i can't run STU looks like I'm running street tires in FSP :(

[JoeT]

I think i read the rules right but i wanted to clarify

2001 Jetta TDI

Bigger turbo, ECU programmed to run 22 PSI

It seems i can't run STU, is that right?

If i can't run STU looks like I'm running street tires in FSP :(

Under the new bulletin, you can run STU no problem.

[mikewolf]

Under the new bulletin, you can run STU no problem.

Just curious where I would find that new bulletin? I looked on the rules page, but didn't notice it.

[AndrewR]

Just curious where I would find that new bulletin? I looked on the rules page, but didn't notice it.

http://www.casc.on.ca/sites/default/files/bulletin_11-as-01.pdf

[Heeley]

1993 Mazda Rx7 R1

Stock engine, stock turbos
upgraded intercooler, airbox, downpipe
PowerFC standalone

Tein S Tech springs
Tokico Illumina dampers
solid trailing arms & toe links in rear

running stock wheels with R888's

~Matt

[elementZ]

Modified boost?

[Heeley]

I haven't modified boost settings at all. It creeps because of the exhaust and intake flow mods but I'm not using a boost controller

[00bluees]

2002 Mazda Protege5

suspension: h&r sport springs on tokico illumina adjustable struts

engine/power: racing beat muffler, k&n drop in, otherwise stock.

wheels/tires: 16x8" +47mm offset with 215/50/16 dunlop direzza dz101 tires (NOT star specs) treadwear 300. rear fenders rolled but not flared, no rubbing.
stock size is 16x6" +50mm offset 195/50/16 tire.

everything else is stock.

just looking for a class for TLMC as they have same classing as regionals, and i can't for the life of me understand anything about the prep points system or the classing. it makes my head explode. i kind of thought ST1 but then saw the max rim width is 7.5", so that might put me into ST2 or U??

[AndrewR]

As per the bulletin above, 8" rim is good for ST1.

ST1 it is

[Snizzoop]

1993 Mazda Rx7 R1

Stock engine, stock turbos
upgraded intercooler, airbox, downpipe
PowerFC standalone

Tein S Tech springs
Tokico Illumina dampers
solid trailing arms & toe links in rear

running stock wheels with R888's

~Matt

Pretty sure you'd be running in ASS.

[1337trix]

^ i laughed

[Pete@SCB]

http://www.casc.on.ca/sites/default/files/bulletin_11-as-01.pdf

Did the PAX numbers change at all?

I may be wrong, but the move from a 7.5" to an 8" wheel is noticable, especially when we all see how all of the Stock class cars that were running wider than stock wheels and were performing much better than the rest of the prep levels.

I did not see this Bulletin before, even though it is dated in early May. Still, I guess I can now use my 8" wheels in ST, even though I was told earlier to go out and buy some 7.5" ones, which I did.

Also, I think that the allowance for boost modifications is a big shift in the class balance. A normally aspirated car that would have been closer in performance to a turbo car is now pretty much out of luck, as we have now given a turbo car a huge boost in power.

These 2 changes surely should cause the PAX numbers to be revisited, as the changes were made after they were finalised.

[AndrewR]

First official year of street tire classes, we are likely to have some suggestions for next year.

Looking forward to seeing you at an event.

Did the PAX numbers change at all?

I may be wrong, but the move from a 7.5" to an 8" wheel is noticable, especially when we all see how all of the Stock class cars that were running wider than stock wheels and were performing much better than the rest of the prep levels.

I did not see this Bulletin before, even though it is dated in early May. Still, I guess I can now use my 8" wheels in ST, even though I was told earlier to go out and buy some 7.5" ones, which I did.

Also, I think that the allowance for boost modifications is a big shift in the class balance. A normally aspirated car that would have been closer in performance to a turbo car is now pretty much out of luck, as we have now given a turbo car a huge boost in power.

These 2 changes surely should cause the PAX numbers to be revisited, as the changes were made after they were finalised.

[Pete@SCB]

First official year of street tire classes, we are likely to have some suggestions for next year.

Looking forward to seeing you at an event.

And I would love to make it out. I have been on a track once in the past 2 years (last week actually), and it would be nice to compete again.

I just need to juggle lots of motorsports responsibilities now.

[00bluees]

As per the bulletin above, 8" rim is good for ST1.

ST1 it is

thanks!!

[lesabre400]

Awesome, thank you for this handy thread!

2001 Subaru Legacy wagon
NA 2.5, 5-speed
17x7.5 Gram Lights
225/45/17 ContiSportContacts

No other mods, unless you count the hole in my exhaust.

Thanks!

[Saj5DJ]

Awesome, thank you for this handy thread!

2001 Subaru Legacy wagon
NA 2.5, 5-speed
17x7.5 Gram Lights
225/45/17 ContiSportContacts

No other mods, unless you count the hole in my exhaust.

Thanks!

ST1 mate. See you there!

[lesabre400]

Cool, I figured as much. Thanks Barry, see you Sunday!

[Ujjwal]

Hey everyone.

I'm a little slow in how autox works so bare with me.

Is the next event at:
Event#5 Sun Jul 17 hosted by PMSC - Peterborough, ON (Kawartha Downs Speedway Oval)

a typical autox event or is it some sort of cones around a oval type thing? Does someone have videos?

Also, can someone class my car:
2003 mustang gt v8
- aftermarket wheels with 140 street tires (don't stick out past the fender). Stock rim and tire size is 17x8 and 245's. I have 17x9 and 255's.

- aftermarket pulleys

- catback exhaust, k and N air filter

- upgraded brakes

- removed my passenger seat

- subframe connectors to stiffen chassis

Would love to try autoxing and just trying to gauge how competitive the car would be as it sits.

Thanks!

[JoeT]

You'll be in STU (Street Tire Class)



Hey everyone.

I'm a little slow in how autox works so bare with me.

Is the next event at:
Event#5 Sun Jul 17 hosted by PMSC - Peterborough, ON (Kawartha Downs Speedway Oval)

a typical autox event or is it some sort of cones around a oval type thing? Does someone have videos?

Also, can someone class my car:
2003 mustang gt v8
- aftermarket wheels with 140 street tires (don't stick out past the fender). Stock rim and tire size is 17x8 and 245's. I have 17x9 and 255's.

- aftermarket pulleys

- catback exhaust, k and N air filter

- upgraded brakes

- removed my passenger seat

- subframe connectors to stiffen chassis

Would love to try autoxing and just trying to gauge how competitive the car would be as it sits.

Thanks!

[Ujjwal]

If I use my stock rims with stock sized street tires, and put the passenger seat back in, does that change anything?

edit:
Just read the rule book for the street tire class, looks like STU it is. I have one question though, it says in the rulebook:

"3. SFCs must be bolted in place and not welded."

My SFC's are welded. How does that affect things?


edit 2:

Reading the rulebook, it looks like the lowest class that allows frame connectors is ESP. Correct me I'm wrong.

edit 3:

I am using 3 / 15 points allowed in ESP, that too without R compound tires and other free mod items. Looks like I should start saving up :)

[thgear]

Ujjwal, good luck making a both competetive Time Attack and Autoslalom car, the rules are vastly different

you would be better off in STU and just gunning it

[Ujjwal]

I think I can fit into FS if the subframe connector issue is cleared up by someone.

[yangsui]

Is the next event at:
Event#5 Sun Jul 17 hosted by PMSC - Peterborough, ON (Kawartha Downs Speedway Oval)

a typical autox event or is it some sort of cones around a oval type thing? Does someone have videos?


Here's one of my videos from last year:
http://youtu.be/VHBYReAvbso

[JoeT]

I think I can fit into FS if the subframe connector issue is cleared up by someone.

Hi Ujjwal,

I don't believe anyone will protest you for a welded vs bolted subframe. But even in FS, you'll be competing against others that have sported R compound tires, and since we don't differentiate between Premium R's and non premium R's, it should be an interesting battle.

Feel free to run in FS or STU and come out to enjoy.

[AndrewR]

You would need your passenger seat for STU

Sounds like a SS car.

[Lloyd_]

I think my Z is in SS too. We could finally compete on an even basis, Ujjwal :)

[Pete@SCB]

Also, can someone class my car:
2003 mustang gt v8
- aftermarket wheels with 140 street tires (don't stick out past the fender). Stock rim and tire size is 17x8 and 245's. I have 17x9 and 255's.

- aftermarket pulleys
- catback exhaust, k and N air filter

- upgraded brakes
- removed my passenger seat

- subframe connectors to stiffen chassis
Would love to try autoxing and just trying to gauge how competitive the car would be as it sits.

Thanks!

To be even close to running in FS, you would need to put the seat back in, the OE pulleys back on, the subframe connectors would need to come off, the OE wheels (or dimensionally correct, based on the rulebook) would need to b, and it all depends on how you upgraded your brakes. ie - if you simply changed rotors and pads, you could stay in Stock.

The rulebook is written in a rather harsh and rigid method. It is meant to be followed, and even if you are not protested, you are still illegal. I know that is a rather nasty way of putting it, but it is the reality of our rules package.

Speaking of which, Andrew, can you please remove 14.4.iii from the rulebook? It is redundant - not allowed in stock, and free in SS and up.

[1337trix]

arent upgraded brakes an immediate SP car?

with that alone it eliminates S, ST, SS...

[AndrewR]

arent upgraded brakes an immediate SP car?

with that alone it eliminates S, ST, SS...

Depends what the "upgrade" is - if it is pads...

We'll class you at the event.

[briansexsmith]

Hi all again I was post #2 and I am in CSP class with my 88 toyota mr2 supercharged. last weekend I had to run the car without boost on a low comp engine and had a lot of fun (one of my co-drivers finished 3rd in SP with PAX correction at the TLMC event)

So what if I took the below CSP car and installed a 4age silvertop in it? (naturally aspirated, itb, JDM engine) this engine is only a different head then the engine I have but it never came in a mr2

Thanks Guys!

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1988 toyota mr2 supercharged

stock engine
over driven supercharger
running megasquirt (aftermarket ECU)
upgraded clutch with stock flywheel
Koni yellow shocks
sleeve over coilovers with springs
Willwood Brake calipers
toyo RA1's

[1337trix]

i think that would bump you to mod

[briansexsmith]

i think that would bump you to mod

I was thinking it would bump me down as this would be like a NA 88 mr2 with a head swap.

[1337trix]

i cant see anything in SP, but SS says

10.9.6 No “restricted” internal engine modifications may be made



best case scenario you're still CSP



ahh i see your point now, but since its not standard to the mr2 i cant see how it would work

[1337trix]

I got a good one


2010 Nissan GTR - bone stock


its only in the rules as being ineligible for ST1 but nothing else is mentioned... like where its base class is

[Saj5DJ]

Unclassified goes into Super Sport. Engine's too big (forced induction) to fit into any street tire class.

[1337trix]

but which SS?

[1337trix]

looks like it would be A Super Stock?

[sjd]

looks like it would be A Super Stock?

Yup.

[Saj5DJ]

Correct if I'm wrong Steve, but I was thinking Super Sport stock category with 'vettes, Viper and Exiges, as in the one above AS. Not the *SS classes.

[sjd]

Correct if I'm wrong Steve, but I was thinking Super Sport stock category with 'vettes, Viper and Exiges, as in the one above AS. Not the *SS classes.

My bad. You are right Barry. Is it SS.

[tienzee]

Hey guys, 2 cars here:

Car 1:

2006 Honda Civic SI
Buddy Club: Race Spec Coil Overs
PLMFG: Race Header w/ Cat
Skunk2: 2 3/4'' Cat Back Exhaust
Hondata: FlashPro EMC
AEM: Cold Air Intake


Car 2:

2002 Acura RSX-S
AEM: Cold Air Intake

Just wondering what classes these cars would be in if we were to run them.

Thanks!

[Curlybandit]

1996 Honda Civic Si (coupe)
Engine:
d16y8 1.6L SOHC vtec

Mods:
Cold air intake with K&N filter
Skunk2 intake manifold
DC Sport 4-2-1 ceramic header
Magnaflow high-flow cat
2.5" mandrel exhaust
OBX twin loop muffler
8.5lbs flywheel
Stage 1 clutch
Short shift
Hawk HP+ front pads
Stainless steel braided brake lines
Neuspeed upper tower bar
Neuspeed lower tie bar

Tires:
Yokahama AD08

Class?

Thanks!

[elementZ]

Hey guys, 2 cars here:

Car 1:

2006 Honda Civic SI
Buddy Club: Race Spec Coil Overs
PLMFG: Race Header w/ Cat
Skunk2: 2 3/4'' Cat Back Exhaust
Hondata: FlashPro EMC
AEM: Cold Air Intake


Car 2:

2002 Acura RSX-S
AEM: Cold Air Intake

Just wondering what classes these cars would be in if we were to run them.

Thanks!

Car 1: ST1 if running street tires, DSP if running r-comps

Car 2: ST1 if running street tires, DSS is running r-comps

[elementZ]

1996 Honda Civic Si (coupe)
Engine:
d16y8 1.6L SOHC vtec

Mods:
Cold air intake with K&N filter
Skunk2 intake manifold
DC Sport 4-2-1 ceramic header
Magnaflow high-flow cat
2.5" mandrel exhaust
OBX twin loop muffler
8.5lbs flywheel
Stage 1 clutch
Short shift
Hawk HP+ front pads
Stainless steel braided brake lines
Neuspeed upper tower bar
Neuspeed lower tie bar

Tires:
Yokahama AD08

Class?

Thanks!

Stock suspension?

I think you would be in DSS.

[JoeT]

1996 Honda Civic Si (coupe)
Engine:
d16y8 1.6L SOHC vtec

Mods:
Cold air intake with K&N filter
Skunk2 intake manifold
DC Sport 4-2-1 ceramic header
Magnaflow high-flow cat
2.5" mandrel exhaust
OBX twin loop muffler
8.5lbs flywheel
Stage 1 clutch
Short shift
Hawk HP+ front pads
Stainless steel braided brake lines
Neuspeed upper tower bar
Neuspeed lower tie bar

Tires:
Yokahama AD08

Class?

Thanks!

Also would fit under ST1 me thinks.

[2008Bullitt]

Hey I'm new to the board and Solo II as well. I was hoping to get my car class from you guys and possible where I can find the rules? I will do a search on the site and hopefully find something.

I have a 2008 Mustang GT Bullitt with a V8 engine (5sp.)
Stock tires 235/50/18 BFG KDWS
Everything other than a KN filter is stock on the car.

Can I use a open face DOT approved helmet? I plan on going out to the
Sun Aug 7 hosted by HADA, - Brampton, ON (Powerade Centre)
to see what this sport is all about. I have seen it on you tube but I'm sure in person it'll be that much more interesting.

[Curlybandit]

Stock suspension?

I think you would be in DSS.

Yup. Stock suspension.

[elementZ]

Also would fit under ST1 me thinks.

ah yes. I dont know why I was thinking A048 last night.

[elementZ]

Hey I'm new to the board and Solo II as well. I was hoping to get my car class from you guys and possible where I can find the rules? I will do a search on the site and hopefully find something.

I have a 2008 Mustang GT Bullitt with a V8 engine (5sp.)
Stock tires 235/50/18 BFG KDWS
Everything other than a KN filter is stock on the car.

Can I use a open face DOT approved helmet? I plan on going out to the
Sun Aug 7 hosted by HADA, - Brampton, ON (Powerade Centre)
to see what this sport is all about. I have seen it on you tube but I'm sure in person it'll be that much more interesting.

You can find the rule book here:

http://casc.on.ca/autoslalom_rules

DOT open face helmet is fine as long as its M/SA2000 or newer.

Your class would be FS, or STU.

[2008Bullitt]

Thanks. I'm going to try to make the last event in this series on the 18th. Just to check it out. Looks like I only need a helemt the time to come out. Can a novice just start at any event or is their a specific event to start with?

[JoeT]

Thanks. I'm going to try to make the last event in this series on the 18th. Just to check it out. Looks like I only need a helemt the time to come out. Can a novice just start at any event or is their a specific event to start with?

Just show up and have a great time.. See you then.