2011 PITL - Event #6, Sunday August 21

[13inches]

2011 PITL - Event #6, Sunday August 21
http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/pitl

Venue:
Bramalea Go-Train Station South lot, near the corner of Steeles and Bramalea in Brampton.

Directions:
Dixie Road, north of Hwy 407 to Advance Blvd, east to Alfred Kuehne Blvd follow to end.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Alfred+Kuehne+Boulevard,+Brampton,+Ontario&aq=0&sll=43.698519,-79.689503&sspn=0.008331,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alfred+Kuehne+Blvd,+Brampton,+Peel+Regional+Municipality,+Ontario&ll=43.696936,-79.691284&spn=0.008331,0.01929&z=16

Event Registration:
7:30-9:00am. First car 9:15am

Entry fee:
$35.00 / driver
LUNCH INCLUDED!

Questions?
Email thelimit@rogers.com

Other 2011 Event Dates:
Event 7 - Saturday Sept 17
Event 8 - Saturday Oct 1

[yangsui]

OMG it's been sooo long. I'm cutting a camping weekend short just to be at this event!

[1337trix]

^ and come 6th in class :)



in for getting my butt whooped again

[Kuruma]

In

Damn RX-8's

[13inches]

in for getting my butt whooped again

I don't think the Type-R is going to be out for this one.


Oh wait, you were probably referring to a whooping from Jerome.......

:p

[twinch]

Woh wait, did I just read that there won't be any Type-R's this one?!? Very interesting.

[13inches]

Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!

Who knows, I might actually run one of my cars for a change!

[Ziploc]

Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!

Who knows, I might actually run one of my cars for a change!

Watch me be absent when you do again.

I have a wedding the day before, but I should be there.

[dhall0519]

Not sure if I'm going to make it again !!!!:mad:

[Outika]

Not sure if I'm going to make it again !!!!:mad:

Make that two of us, my AE86 is out of action as well :(

[dhall0519]

I hope that you guys will still hold my # for next season. I'm thinking short of just coming out to help I might not be back for the rest of the events:(

[yangsui]

^BOOOOOOOOO

....dibs on Dave's number. Kidding. Good luck on whatever you have to do to get the cars ready!

[13inches]

If anyone from the Brampton area is coming to the event on Sunday can you please drop me a PM if you can lend a hand? I've got a set of rims (no tires) that have to get to the event on Sunday but I don't think they'll fit in my car.


Thanks!

[1337trix]

between me and guido we can help out, shoot me a pm with when/where

[13inches]

Thanks for the offer Ryan. I got it all sorted out today. Now if the rain can hold off I'll be out in the aluminum dream tomorrow.

[Taylor]

Thanks for the offer Ryan. I got it all sorted out today. Now if the rain can hold off I'll be out in the aluminum dream tomorrow.

What, do supercars melt in the rain or something? :P

Or wait.. isn't the insight largely aluminum too? :)

[13inches]

What, do supercars melt in the rain or something? :P

Or wait.. isn't the insight largely aluminum too? :)

You bring the turbo car, I'll bring the Insight.

[13inches]

Taylor didn't bring the turbo car, so I didn't bring the Insight :D

Thanks as always to everyone who came out for some fun today, before and after the rain in some cases! We've really got some crazy mofos running this series!

Just so everyone is clear, we will officially score everyone's first four runs for the day. Half the field got in five but it wouldn't be fair to those who only got in four. If you wish to protest this decision, please email Taylor.

[Kuruma]

Will the time for the fifth run be posted anyway? That might have been my fastest......

[Taylor]

Hey I had little to do with that decision. I am but one vote and I dunno it's an equal one to begin with. :) Forward complaints to /dev/null

But this does illustrate why I don't like stopping for lunch. :p

[13inches]

I suppose I could include the fifth run times for those who completed one.

[twinch]

Fun event even though I definately was not in the hunt for top spot. Too bad it had to end after the 4th run for me. I was just working on figuring out the entrance to the slalom.

Thanks to all the organizers again for putting on the event.

At least I learned a few things.

1) RS3's are going to be my next set of street tires.
2) Spec-V Rims are not built for racing now that I've seen one with 2 completely cracked through spokes. That was insane to see.
3) Teepee covers built the night before with a leftover tarp, wood trim and hinges, held together by zip ties cannot withstand more than a light gust of wind, even when strapped down.

[1337trix]

I'll have to post a pic of guido's rim....

2 spokes cracked right through :eek:

[eg6ajk]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45726572@N04/6067929336/

[Taylor]

Thanks for that. Sadly it had to be an off-course run. :)

[Ziploc]

Thanks for that. Sadly it had to be an off-course run. :)

Three cameras pointed at you. No pressure. Ryan murdered a cone something fierce on his recorded run as well.

Event was fun! I may have only gotten 4 timed runs. But the 2 I got as fun runs in the rain were wicked fun. I can't say I've ever hydroplaned on purpose before that.

I love that the cameras (nearly all 3 of them) recorded the laughs and applause after my sideways stop box entry. :D

[Kuruma]

Oh and, I loved yesterday's course layout. So much fun, each section worked with the next really well.

[1337trix]

+1 on the course yesterday, good job

[Taylor]

Three cameras pointed at you. No pressure.

Oh puhleeze. :p I didn't miss the gate out of pressure. I was carrying more speed into the section than previous runs (good line/exit up at the top) and I got into the bumpy stuff under ABS and was just way too deep once the speed was off to make the turn. No brain-fart, just plain ol' driver error. Looking at the video it looks like I was too close to the single cone anyhow.

Yeah watching the video again the wheels are turned the correct direction and you can hear my tires chirping under braking, but car kept going straight over the bumps. Too hot.

There you go kiddies, sometimes fast is slow! :P

I look dreadfully slow up the right handed chute to the cross over but the external video tells me the car corners much more comparatively to what I see many Miata's capable of. Inside the car doesn't feel like how it looks around some corners. Corners feel like they take forever, and the straights feel fast.. but the video tells a different story. Go figure.

[eg6ajk]

NB Miata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frjMdVYhr0g

Integra R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAEwV3879Rc

Civic Sedan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bgmEN9Qg4

[Kuruma]

Uploading videos tomorrow. Less content than last time since my camera seems to have messed up somehow.

In the meantime:

http://www.thequietrevolution.ca/quiet/images/PITL/P1000635.JPG

http://www.thequietrevolution.ca/quiet/images/PITL/P1000636.JPG

[CDNChaoZ]

I posted this on the PITL Facebook page already, but not everybody is on there...

Bumper Cam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjr7IJC5BA)

[Taylor]

We have a Facebook page? Where? I can't find it.

[Ziploc]

Someone made a group or something. I don't think it is an actual page. Seems to suffice well though.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_154305824637119&ap=1

[1337trix]

hopefully i dont suck at the internets

http://www.facebook.com/groups/154305824637119/

[1337trix]

vals works and he beat me to it

[13inches]

Uploading videos tomorrow.

GOOMBA! Where's the vids???

[1337trix]

where the results are... :rolleyes:

[13inches]

I sent the results to Brad on Tuesday.

If you wish to protest this decision, please email Taylor.

[1337trix]

we must say this "As this is a fun series, the organizers rarely accept protests from competitors, and politics do not belong in fun times."


if i wanted to protest, there's bigger fish to fry... like that street tire bonus :)

[Taylor]

if i wanted to protest, there's bigger fish to fry... like that street tire bonus :)

48.092 * 1.02 = 49.05... bonus schmonus. :P

Results are up BTW.

[13inches]

Feel free to share your thoughts on the subject. I for one firmly believe that on any warm, dry day you won't beat the 2% bonus against an A6 or v710.

[1337trix]

your maths are fail :)

it's 48.092 x 100 / 98


49.073 :)

[1337trix]

i like the idea of the street bonus, i really do

as long as i keep in mind i'm racing RAW i'm fine, this last weekend i only had to cut a second.. which my car is clearly capable of, i'm just not

when i see 2 seconds though... i dont know, thats crazy :)

[Taylor]

Whichever. Yeesh (yes it's calculated right in the software).

And I think Ryan's right, any warm day and it's a real bitch (for me anyhow) to stay ahead. Though I think if I raised the ride height up I might be able to cover the difference. But there's a notable difference between R's and the bonus based on surface conditions.

The right setup of course is R's for warm/dry and street's for cold/wet.

[Ziploc]

Expect my videos up in the next 12 hours.

GOOMBA gave me Taylor's other angle. So he's lucky enough to get two. (Though my GoPro got smudged somehow)

Here's it untagged and un-named: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEoW9pC0gNk

I actually had to crop the GoPro as it had a lot of the interior captured. Oh the wonders of a fisheye lens.

[Taylor]

Merci buckets.

And yes.. that was a bump. :p

[13inches]

There's a small correction to the class and overall standings coming as I've missed some points from the last two events.

If anyone notices anything else missing please let me know. I'll hold off on sending the update until next week.

[13inches]

Re: the course design

Surprising to hear how much everyone enjoyed the course given that many of the top times appeared to have plateaued by the third and fourth run. Maybe that's a sign of a good course? Easy enough to quickly go fast, hard enough to find those last few 1/10ths.

[yangsui]

I thought the course flowed together really nicely! Loved it!

[Taylor]

I always prefer to put together a course where you have a choice of line. Corners connected where you can sacrifice in one turn of the wheel to gain down the path. Obviously these allow a lot of people to second guess themselves, likely going quicker in some areas but slower in the others.

While I'm certain my line on the off course video coming around the top was the quickest line, I must have messed up a few other places to drop my raw time down so much... unless it was a 48.8 raw. :)

When you only get 4 shots at it and the first is the duster-run, there's only so much you can do with 3 laps.. one is going to be the drivers FTD.. the other two are 'attempts'.

I think usually it takes a good few runs on a course like that to figure out what works and what doesn't. 5th and 6th runs here likely would have been FTD contenders for the more experienced guys.

I'm just relieved the centre light-post gate (adjacent to the grate) wasn't nearly as cringe inducing behind the wheel than during the course walk. Also I'd still like to do an event with no slalom. Don't get me wrong, I love the slalom, but I wouldn't mind having that space to try different things with. But to pull that off someone would have to kidnap Darryl.

[smokinfire]

Awesome course! I agree with Taylor, with the current crop of cars, there are several different lines depending on what vehicle is being driven and what conditions we get. I just need to follow Derek on the course walk, and not Mike :)

I am not a fan of the street tire bonus (or PAX for similar reasons), as I don't think the 2% bonus is enough, and if we ever got really serious, it could lead to a bunch of pointless bench racing. When I ran street tires, I made a note of other cars runing street tires so I had an idea of who I would be competing with. I think ideally raw times should be posted and scored, but an "S" beside cars with street tires would help keep a perspective for the competitors who haven't taken the step to R compounds.

On the bit about only counting the first 4 runs - I'm sure my 5th run was my fastest, so I would argue that of course it should count! :rolleyes:
And I still can't wait for next event!:D

[Kuruma]

GOOMBA! Where's the vids???

Everything at work is on fire :o

Not as many videos this time around, somehow all of my own runs got wiped as well as a few others. No idea why.

PITL 2011 #6 - Honda S2000 #20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEwzXyDU5Ek) (same as Val's compilation picture-in-picture vid)

PITL 2011 #6 - Lexus IS300 #50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2scZJrXJU)

PITL 2011 #6 - Toyota Matrix XRS #13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhI4MaQ-Cj8)

PITL 2011 #6 - Saab 9-3 Aero #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8ms5IlGKk)

PITL 2011 #6 - Nissan Sentra SE-R #67 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g7VL5U_et4)

PITL 2011 #6 - Saab 9-3 Aero #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJhj4L_imk)

PITL 2011 #6 - Mazda Miata #77 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFXvQ9tPtC0)

[DareBee]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Steve.
Glad to see (and hear) your 944 running again.

[Ziploc]

Honda S2000 #20 - PITL #6 2011 - Double Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEoW9pC0gNk)

Porsche 944 Turbo #53 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZt_AZFS9EY)

Mazda Miata #18 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyQH4oZRWwE)

Honda S2000 #20 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1kPTNfoC88)

Mazdaspeed6 #26 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n9tITG7u74)

Mazda Miata #18 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BwoQYl-BUI)

Mazda Miata #9 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1rW0-uy6TY)

Saab 9-3 #2 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ERMCty3ko)

MGB GT #27 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW5By6UfxxM)

Audi S4 Avant #7 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mYQd5Tfirw)

Datsun 240 #1 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2jC34VEQY)

Acura NSX #41 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saLUI2T1OBA)

Subaru Impreza STI #57 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kju7xLdAopU)

Mazda Miata #46 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqVLhOst5vg)

Triumph TR8 #25 - PITL #6 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6Mr0eUfc8)

My run compilation will have to wait till tomorrow. Got too wrapped up in riding my new (to me) motorcycle. :D

[13inches]

Thanks SpeedsterGuy and Goomba!!

:D

[automatic]

Woohoo! Joined the 50 club :D

[yangsui]

^Shootout time!

[Kuruma]

Woohoo! Joined the 50 club :D

haha, appropriate name.

[Taylor]

I need to find a class winning car for the next two events. :p

[1337trix]

the s2k sold?

[Ziploc]

I need to find a class winning car for the next two events. :p

Are three shootout drivers not enough for you? :p

[Taylor]

Are three shootout drivers not enough for you? :p

I was more thinking about my 3rd Championship. :p