PDA

View Full Version : The Drifters Have Arrived


Steven Scala
07-13-2004, 04:29 PM
I'm happy to announce that Alberto & Co. of DriftNation have submitted their not-for-profit incorporation papers to establish Canada Drift.

This represents the final component of the group's affiliation, which had been initially submitted a couple of months ago. With the affiliation of Canada Drift, CASC Ontario Region's membership is now up to 32 clubs overall.

So I want all you 'grip racing' snobs to be nice. Anybody casting aspersions as to the driving ability of any of the other disciplines is invited to put his/her money where his/her mouth is during ice racing season. That goes for everybody...

Cheers.

SS

DareBee
07-13-2004, 04:51 PM
Damn....This forum doesn't have a dictionary:confused:

finboy
07-13-2004, 05:29 PM
fantastic!!

can't wait

Champ98
07-16-2004, 08:54 AM
However, Grip and traction is of the upmost importance in order to win races, ...

Even on the ice!

Lafora
07-17-2004, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Champ98
However, Grip and traction is of the upmost importance in order to win races, ...

Even on the ice!

pound this into your head
"drifting isn't racing"

go :D

Crusher45
07-17-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Champ98
However, Grip and traction is of the upmost importance in order to win races, ...

Even on the ice!

Drifting may not be racing but it is a form of motorsports. Now where's my stocks in Goodyear.
:D

John Powell
07-18-2004, 12:16 AM
"drifting isn't racing" Well if it isn't racing, and it doesn't seem to be Solo I or II, maybe someone can explain to us old time racers what it actually is? :confused: I know what a classic four wheel drift is in racing, but what is this "drifting". Is it like doing donuts or power sliding, bootlegger turns, or maybe just throw it and catch it? And how is it scored? I think I heard someone say somewhere that it's scored like figure skating - Lord I hope not! :rolleyes: So can a "drifter" please elucidate this for us incognosticenti? :D

malcolm
07-19-2004, 11:16 AM
drifting is actually a misnomer to many racers. To racers, a drift is a very slight amount of oversteer. However, in "drifting," the object is to have the maximum slip angle possible. As far as I know, the criteria is as follows:

-maximum slip angle
-high corner speed
-follow the racing line
-how far before the corner the drift was initiated (so it's not just stomping on the throttle mid corner, you need to use weight transfer and perhaps the hand-brake to initiate the drift well before the corner).

You are judged on how well you can maximize each part of the criteria. I'll post some links to some good Japanese drifting videos when I have a little more time. :)

finboy
07-19-2004, 12:24 PM
it was brought up last year

http://racing.kos.net/soloforums/showthread.php?threadid=1551&highlight=drift

John Powell
07-19-2004, 11:59 PM
To racers, a drift is a very slight amount of oversteer. Actually, Malcolm, you're only partly correct. I'm told that the classic four-wheel drift is hard to achieve with modern racing tires, and not really necessary due to the grip levels, but because I was your age back in the time of the dinosaurs (or so it seems :( ) I can recall drivers such as Moss, Gurney et al drifting through corners with all four wheels just over the maximum grip level. In effect they were sliding almost imperceptably sideways through a corner, with the rear tires at a slightly larger slip angle than the fronts, and usually with all wheels pointing in the same direction. In other words, basically a "neutral" drift, not under- or over steering. At the time, given the nature of the racing tires then in use, it was considered that this was the fastest way through a corner.

malcolm
07-20-2004, 02:30 PM
true... I guess I never really thought deeply about what I was doing behind the wheel. Now that I think about it, I know the car is at a slip angle of upwards of 3 degrees at times, but I am not counter-steering, so the fronts must be slipping a minute amount. :)

Oh, and don't worry, it wasn't that long ago that Moss was racing... if you mentioned Bernd Rosemeyer and Nuvolari, it might be a slightly different story. ;)

Keith-02Accord
07-26-2004, 03:09 PM
The TLC show "Rides" is doing an episode on Drifting tomorrow night.

Just an FYI.

Keith-02Accord
07-28-2004, 10:36 AM
I watched about 3/4 of the show...pretty good and informative actually. I can't believe how big it is out in Cali...these guys take it serious.

Probably not something for me, but I can see why some people love it.

Greg F
07-28-2004, 07:45 PM
I think that with the ever-increasing popularity of drifting, the car companies may actually bring back more rear wheel drive cars to the North American market.