PDA

View Full Version : WIL: Shannonville OTA 2017


Gwoody27
08-28-2017, 08:25 AM
Great weather, high speeds, close battles, camp fires, spins, and broken cars defined the 2017 OTA Championship weekend. That doesn't count timing issues, track oiling cleanup and a suspenseful late event protest that leaves us all wondering about the results. More than the usual drama made this a weekend to remember. So getting my thoughts together here's what I learned.

1. Shannonville is bumpy which always causes breakdowns and this year was no exception. One in particular affected me when Pauly's car suffered it's 2nd engine failure in as many weekends. And I thought rotary engines were fragile. Sorry it happened because we had a great competition heating up. There is always next year Pauly, you're still young enough to win many titles.

2. Even our timing guru, Perry, had never experienced the system problems the team faced this weekend. While Perry celebrated his son's wedding the group soldiered on the bring us the right times in a lapping format, both days. When they spoke to Perry on Sunday he confirmed that this was a new and surprising situation. The results will be sorted out in due course. Thanks for everyone's patient and diligence.

3. The traditional BBQ was a huge success, thanks to Will for organizing and delivering. The subsequent campfire was awesome as well. What a super group of folks we have in OTA.

4. Always carry spare brake pads. Like many others I was trying to stretch my equipment to the end of the season and fell only 10 laps short with my brake pads. Lucky tail winds allowed my first session time to stand up for the day and I did not need to accept Alex's kind offer to borrow some pads from him.

5. Overall attendance at SMP was the highest in recent memory and is very much in line for the season as a whole, make 2017 a financially viable one and bodes well for 2018. Can't wait already, I have brand new brake pads ready to go.

6. Thanks to the Mazda drivers. We got a good picture that was taken for us by Kathy. (see below) We will send it on to our corporate supporters.

7. Thanks to everyone for helping out at the events. Be sure to make time to attend the year end season celebrating. It will be held at Dave and Buster's at 407/400 sometime in the next few weeks. Watch for an e-mail for details.

That's my 3 cents, what did you learn and how did your weekend roll?

Grant Galloway
08-28-2017, 12:34 PM
I didn't have much time to learn anything! LOL

My first session I went down pit lane and thought to myself man this is the bumpiest pit lane I have ever seen! I said to Chris is it this bad out there?

He confirmed yes!

I ran 5 laps having never been on the track before I really liked the fast straightaway. I pulled off and figured I would soften the dampers by a few clicks. When I reached in for the adjusters I got a hand full of shock fluid! MCS uses a pretty green colour!

My weekend was done as well as my season. 4 hr drive for 5 laps and them another 4 hrs home made for a very expensive not so fun weekend!

But it was a great year for OTA, car is still shiny and the panels are straight..

Type R will be debuting on track in a few weeks.

Thanks to all the OTA crew for running great events!

Grant

jimmo-san
08-28-2017, 04:22 PM
1. Shannonville is lots of fun, especially when it isn't raining, foggy or both raining and foggy.

2. The marshals at corner 13 are nice folks. I had the pleasure of unexpectedly stopping to chat with them both Saturday and Sunday. ;)

3. Albert's car does an artistic pirouette when it hits a track corner covered with oil.

4. Competition pushes you to find extra time reductions that you didn't know you could find.

5. Many thanks to Mohammed and Kathy for their support of OTA and the awards. Much appreciated!

6. Many thanks also to the marshals, organizers and volunteers who made the 2017 OTA season so much fun!

Silex326
08-29-2017, 02:12 AM
WIL : Shannonville 2017

1: The track is as rough and course as people say ... even my hockey pucks were pretty much FUBAR afterwards.

2: Chasing Miata's is hard as hell ( for my car anyway) but fun , especially when you manage to get into a cat & mouse battle with just 0.001 of a second between each other .

3: Setting the car in drift mode and entering the turn at the end of the back straight at 135+ With hockey pucks for tires is a quick reminder a 91' Escort never came equipped with drift mode ..

4: OTA after dark at the camp fires makes for some interesting conversations , lucky charms seems to be the go to camp fire snack.

5: I don't do well setting the pace and running at the front of a group ( I never did in stock car racing either ) I much prefer having a "rabbit" that I can chase to use as visual encouragement to push harder , As a novice I find this helpful to use as a tool in improving my limits and finding new limits of the car.

As a novice to Time Attack & OTA I had a great time , Looking forward to next season.

Econobox
08-29-2017, 01:44 PM
WIL at Shannonville:

It's not only Subaru's that have oil starvation issues. When the engine was pulled out of the Focus you could see a fragment of the rightmost piston hanging out of the hole in the block. The good news is a replacement motor has been found and the mighty econobox will be restored to life tomorrow.

Econobox Dave

Gwoody27
08-29-2017, 02:28 PM
WIL at Shannonville:

It's not only Subaru's that have oil starvation issues. When the engine was pulled out of the Focus you could see a fragment of the rightmost piston hanging out of the hole in the block. The good news is a replacement motor has been found and the mighty econobox will be restored to life tomorrow.

Econobox Dave

Very good news.

BlueStreak
08-29-2017, 02:41 PM
Another great event with great talent.

Looking forward to running the entire season next year. Except for maybe TMP... that track is the bane of my existence. :rolleyes:

alexb29
08-29-2017, 08:16 PM
1. More front camber was a great idea.
2. More rear toe would've been an even better idea.
3. 'Loose is fast' was a pretty apt mantra for this weekend, but it scared the s**t outta me most times.
4. With that said, I've never had so much fun while being scared at the same time. Might be a mental disorder.
5. This is the first time I've been to SMP and not had some sort of failure. Just gotta find some wood to knock on...
6. Organizers and volunteers are always to be applauded for their efforts. Special consideration to the timing crew for getting through the SNAFU this weekend. I think I'll stick to Tech Inspection. :D
7. Having a pyrometer and piercing probe was probably the only way I survived this weekend. Would've never guessed I needed that much tire pressure just to stay on track.
8. Finding out your air mattress is broken SUCKS.
9. Having your brother bring you a new air mattress ROCKS.
10. OTA is the best time attack I've been to for many reasons. :)

Yellow Viggen
08-29-2017, 09:14 PM
1. Finishing-off the old set of RE71s seemed like a good idea up to a point.
2. Not being able to match the morning lap times, especially on Sunday afternoon, was the consequence and I won't do it again.
3. It felt good to be able to match the times of my old competitors and almost as good to be beaten by young novices! Really encouraging for the series.:)
Martin W.
Integra #283

dubya_rx
08-30-2017, 05:37 PM
Another great year with a great group of guys (but I already knew that).

Here's the video of one of my faster runs on Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGdKBtslDE

Definite improvement from last year's time.

LemonJus
08-30-2017, 05:49 PM
1. Everyone was pretty polite and patient with me at timing for going through a SNAFU. We got things running and everyone was happily driving and no lynch mobs formed. Thank you to everyone for understanding. To quote Homer Simpson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlOhSt_qW0

2. Being my first time doing any hot laps at SMP (I've only been there as a ride along and did alligator lapping), I really really like the track layout but HATE the surface! That bump on the return to the front was super difficult to figure out how to maximize entry. Part of the fun I guess!

3. Learnt and adapted a ton from going from Pro to Long track. Rob H. proved to be a VERY perfect bunny to chase and I did all my best laps with him in front.

4. I need new engine mounts... I missed 3rd gear on the back straight and it took me almost two seconds to find it.

5. Between running between timing and my car, this is where having a stock car shines - no need to mess around with anything except maybe tire pressures!

6. Clean up afterwards can be hectic. Need to make a list for future volunteers.

7. I CAN CATCH ALEX. I KNOW IT.

dubya_rx
08-31-2017, 12:08 PM
Sunday's quickest lap...

https://youtu.be/cm3CNljJ8io

And video of (hopefully) everyone on a flying lap at the last corner.

https://youtu.be/oB4WBijlYKc

LemonJus
08-31-2017, 03:42 PM
Sunday's quickest lap...

https://youtu.be/cm3CNljJ8io

And video of (hopefully) everyone on a flying lap at the last corner.

https://youtu.be/oB4WBijlYKc

Thanks for sharing! My car doesn't sound too bad actually!

Silvia_Drift
08-31-2017, 04:42 PM
Do the lap times/results from OTA events get posted somewhere? I checked the Results section on the CASC website and it appears that nothing for 2016 or 2017 was posted.

LemonJus
08-31-2017, 04:45 PM
Do the lap times/results from OTA events get posted somewhere? I checked the Results section on the CASC website and it appears that nothing for 2016 or 2017 was posted.

They're on the main website: http://time-attack.ca/results/

mcbeth059
08-31-2017, 07:31 PM
1. The approximate mileage on the BRZ's stock Primacy HP's are somewhere around 7,350km. (With some 'aggressive' driving)

2. Camping at the track is really convenient, waking up without having to worry about 401 traffic is really nice.

3. 401 traffic never goes away

4. With this season being my very first on track I find myself learning at each event. I'll find myself making mistakes and correcting them, although I have no idea if I'm still doing it right. More track days and schools are definitely needed.

5. After spending all but one event with the people of OTA, I'm very glad this was the series that I joined. Each person I spoke too or had questions for was more than helpful and extremely friendly. I look forward to next season with you all.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4364/36113183774_3185e96511_c.jpg

Grant Galloway
08-31-2017, 09:36 PM
Jake lets see the prius do that to Primacy tires!

You definitely had fun..

Mhussain
08-31-2017, 10:17 PM
WIL: There must be a Santa Claus and
The timing system is amazing:
It can replicate my laptimes and make me look better than a professional Time Attack racer.
On Saturday it recorded multiple identical laps:
Laps 1 in all 3 sessions were the same 77.750 seconds.
Lap 3 of the first session and lap 2 of the last session were identical 77.751 seconds: wow for consistency!
Then I looked at Carsten Gieshens lap times and guess what- laps 1 & 2 of the first session were identical 75.504 seconds and laps 1 & 2 of the second session were also identical 75.754 seconds! Also laps 1 and 3 of his third session were identical! 75.005 seconds.
I don't have all the records except for my class GT1 and I wonder if others had similar experiences.
I had similar confusing results on Sunday which I questioned and was told that I am a very consistent driver! Are some drivers really that consistent or is the timing mechanism that consistently accurate?

Regards,
Mohamed

Chris P
09-01-2017, 04:27 PM
And video of (hopefully) everyone on a flying lap at the last corner.

https://youtu.be/oB4WBijlYKc


hahahahha @ 2:36 Damn banana just couldn't put the power down. :mad::mad: Now who oiled up my tires this weekend!!?? :confused:


Thanks for the vid Walter

Chris P
09-01-2017, 04:48 PM
1) Thanks again for all of the help in making Event 5&6 happen. In the 17(?) seasons I've been around this is the first time I can recall timing issues similar to what occured. Special thanks to the timing team for pulling something together allowing the event to occur, and to the backoffice for sorting through the data in order to build full year results.

2) Toyo R888r's on a 3,800lbs car appear to last around 5 track days with our tight courses. Still some tread, zero stick on day 6. :(

3) Coming down with tonsillitis and fevering while at the track is absolutely zero fun.

4) Coming down with tonsillitis and fevering while trying to tame a car with gravel level's of grip on tarmac is about as much fun as......<insert valgur phase here>

5) Five? 5 days later and I'm still not significantly better. Annoying

6) Great season in watching many new competitors come out and push the laptime bar. Those old times weren't set by slouches, cars, prep, or something else has pushed the expectation forward. Let's hope there are many repeat faces next summer!

LemonJus
09-01-2017, 05:12 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4364/36113183774_3185e96511_c.jpg[/img]

You were driving that BRZ super hard! Your tires and alignment is likely what is holding you back at this moment. Not sure if you have camber bolts but get them plus some track tires and BOOM: set yourself free!

Track schools are always a good idea. I made it a point to attend at least 3-4 before joining OTA. If you're on the FT86club forums, I'm there as "Frost".

Silex326
09-03-2017, 08:57 PM
That flying lap vid makes my Escort GT look and sound alot faster than it really is :p ( 4:47 in the vid )

Slowpoke
09-04-2017, 05:13 PM
#1) I did better on Pro than I expected (Not a Shannonville fan)

#2) I did worse on Full than I expected. That needs analysis. (See videos below)

#3) Overwhelming the tires frequently, I think that I'll classify with lower SGT1 power for 2018.

#4) The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry. We planned early and had numerous volunteers assist at timing (which saved our butts to get accurate times), but you can always rely on computers to act up at the wrong moment. Thanks for everyone's patience.

#5) I'm grateful to everyone who grabbed stuff or started cameras for me so that I didn't have to climb back out of my cage. :o

#6) No one likes discussing car classification.

#7) I've learned a lot about alignment settings this year. And I've reinforced that I like a soft suspension setup.

#8) Will Parsons is the master of the BBQ! Soloing a two person job! Thanks, Will!

#9) OTA has a great culture of positive encouragement, and everyone steps up when needed. You're all an awesome group!

#10) I'm looking forward to the banquet!

SMP Full with mic mounted to the Borg Warner EFR 7670 Bypass valve. The Race Render conversion roughened the audio.

https://youtu.be/MIA2RS3ul2s

SMP Full with mic mounted too close to the exhaust. Sounds like a bridge-ported four rotor on power. Like an engine grenading with a sprinkle of extra chaos. This was my fastest lap. Shouldn't have gotten off the power to straighten it coming onto the front straight.

https://youtu.be/cHbfzdQJz1c

Photo courtesy of Katherine Plewa. Thanks! https://www.flickr.com/photos/kat771motorsports/albums/with/72157684645537842

https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21314765_10154781739946766_8707576096107097031_n.jpg?oh=0eeae889c43722edb92ed995a2b6d89e&oe=5A24434F

wparsons
09-05-2017, 10:48 AM
#8) Will Parsons is the master of the BBQ! Soloing a two person job! Thanks, Will!

To be fair, both Paczynskis helped between other commitments as well as someone else who's name I didn't catch.

Silex326
09-07-2017, 01:12 AM
To be fair, both Paczynskis helped between other commitments as well as someone else who's name I didn't catch.

Think my wife volunteered to help with the BBQ / food stuff. Atleast she agreed to when Chris P. talked with us just after lunch.

Slowpoke
09-07-2017, 02:04 AM
Think my wife volunteered to help with the BBQ / food stuff. Atleast she agreed to when Chris P. talked with us just after lunch.

And this is also something I've been shown in Grand detail this year. Far more people than anyone realizes are responsible for the success of the series. So many people help in little and big ways. The series belongs to the competitors . It has become what you've made it.

Thank you for that!