View Full Version : Escort GT Ride Along @ SMP 2017 #6

11-06-2017, 01:34 AM
It could likely be that i'm just not used to the car , still super green to the sport.

But would a set of say Toyo R1R or 888's really be able to help this train wreck in lap times ?

I really need to go over this car this winter with bushing replacements , give it a proper alignment ( 0-toe-an-go was all i did with a tape measure pre event # 1 and never touched it since )The Springs it has do drop the car 1.5" but are stock spring rates ( Mushy )

I've never really driven on an "R-Comp" tire so i dont know what to expect.

Tires used for the 2017 OTA season were Dunlop DZ102 (460 tread wear) ..

I'm open to creative criticism , opinions.


11-06-2017, 11:35 AM
I am impressed with your approach, not trying to conquer the world in a day but building up to speed in a systematic manner. Very good.

IMO from where you sit now tires will make the biggest difference. I would go to R888R if you can get your size. R1R would also be an improvement but are an older design. Both are better than your Dunlops which were not designed for track use at all.

Getting a proper alignment would also be a big help towards consistency. Together these things should allow the car to send proper signals to you even with soft springs. For you year 2 should be all about becoming consistent as you learn the car and tracks. If you can get help learning the lines, hit your reference points and drive smoothly you will be faster and safer, no question.

Remember the classroom, Smooth and Consistent = Safe and Fast

11-06-2017, 01:13 PM
200 tread wear or less.
Many to consider.

11-06-2017, 10:59 PM
Well... i've never really had "in class" instruction with the exception of SPDA's "autocross" school ...

All my lapping and "school" experience is with AWD vehicles ... Foresters , Outbacks.

I've had plenty of people tell me i should turbo the car and such jump into the faster classes but as the car sits ... that move would just make the car dangerous . I've had a 280-300 hp escort before ... they are extremely fast ... in a straight line ... just don't turn ... not somehing i want as a novice .

Being new to the sport i want to take advantage of any seat time i can get ( afford ) build my skill and confidence up and sort the car out handling wise before i start thinking about moving up the class tree .

I'll see what i can do to get my hands on some 888's , some other folks have mentioned maybe a stagered tire set up by going a little wider in the front to help the car rotate a little more in the rear .. the other thing that is hurting me is my suspension set up . since when i aquired the car it already had lowering springs on it but doesn't work very well for the track and makes the car feel mushy and the car is very easy to upset and extremely challenging to keep ballanced ( imo ) finding better springs or a set of coil overs that i can retro fit is proving to be a challenge .

the other challenge is keeping my self planted in the 90's plushy seat as i am more exhausted from trying to keep my self from flying all over the place than i am from actually driving . I have a set of recaro's from an Evo 10 i might use with a 4 point belt set .

I appreciate the input thus far , more are welcome to comment if they wish .

I'm open to ride alongs .. just grab a helmet and jump in . if i'm doing something that needs improvement just speak up.

11-10-2017, 04:17 PM
Well... i've never really had "in class" instruction with the exception of SPDA's "autocross" school ...

Your best spent money will be on the OTA school this coming spring. Class time and in-car Instructors will spend the day with you. Plan on that!

11-12-2017, 12:26 AM
I would love to have taken the school last season ... unfortuneately my budget didn't ( still doesn't ) allow for it :o

I'm not doing to horrible for essentially " winging it" but yes i know there is some corrections i need to make , some fine tuning there after.

11-12-2017, 01:10 AM
Assuming that you do the bushings and the tires won't rip your suspension or mounts apart, the tires will be a big difference in what you can achieve.

That said... Frank isn't wrong. Education can often save you seconds.