Yes, another classification Question

[Piotrov]

I still am confused by the points and classifications.

Im was in DSP last year with these current mods.

-sway bars
-lower tie bars
-strut bars
-coilovers
-falken azina tires
-short shifter
-2 bucket seats


Now if i added these things.

-Williams brake pads
-R compound tires
-cold air intake
-LSD
-clutch
-flywheel
-remove rear seats

will i still stay in DSP? :D

if not then what sould i get rid off to stay in DSP, Or maybe add to get free points?

any thoughts would be greatly apreciated! Im still a noob :rolleyes:

[Tony Kloosterma]

you can addd all those items and stay in dsp

Tony

[Piotrov]

that was quick :D

Thanks alot Tony!

[miataboi]

You can also download teh 2004 rulebook from here:
http://solo2ontario.com/info/documents/2004solo2rules.pdf

It'll also help you understand other classes and car-prep better I think...

and just because someone else tells you that you're in X class... ont he web... doesn't necissarily make it so...

You need to be 100% confident yourself...

[Tony Kloosterma]

hes in dsp, where does it say he isn't???

Tony

[miataboi]

Originally posted by Tony Kloosterma
hes in dsp, where does it say he isn't???

Tony

That's not the point...
People need to understand the rules, classing and prep-point system themselves... as opposed to taking others words for it...

If you like this sport... it's not bad reading!
For a S.O.... it's boring as hell!
:D

[Tony Kloosterma]

K,,,no issue then

[Piotrov]

Thanks guys, I totaly agree that i should know how to class my own car. I guess the question i should have asked was, how do i know what my class is.

i have read the booklet but i still dident understand how the points are tied in with the classes..
:confused:

[Tony Kloosterma]

pitrov, the book lists what mods cost what pointsin each class.
stock is the most restricted.
ss lets you do a little more
sp is very lenient with mods and mod is wide open.

you have to do a signifigant amount of mods to get out of street preped.

Tony

[wpfri]

Don't worry,I also do not know the rules and I think Jeff is right.We should know the rule book if we are going to compete.

All the same,I like to thank all the guys that took the time to guide me through my H stock civic.

You guys make Nubies feel very welcome and this is excellent for the sport.Thanks for your guidence and patience.

William

[Piotrov]

Originally posted by wpfri

You guys make Nubies feel very welcome and this is excellent for the sport.Thanks for your guidence and patience.

William

completely agree with you there!
I have never been really good at reading manuals and rule books. I guess the terms that are used just lose me.

Ill just have to spend more time and study it just the same as for an exam :D

Thanks again for all your help!

[Tony Kloosterma]

sway bars 1 point each
-lower tie bars free
-strut bars free
-coilovers 3 points
-falken azina tires free
-short shifter free
-2 bucket seats 1 point each


Now if i added these things.

-Williams brake pads free
-R compound tires free
-cold air intake free
-LSD free
-clutch free
-flywheel 2 points
-remove rear seats 1 point

10 points in total
put in a fire extinguisher and its 9 points, that leaves you with 6 points to play with

Tony

[Piotrov]

thanks for braking it down for me.
It will make it alot simpler when i look it up.

[Wedge]

Originally posted by Piotrov
Now if i added these things.

-Williams brake pads
-R compound tires
-cold air intake
-LSD
-clutch
-flywheel
-remove rear seats


Wow, if you actually get all that stuff installed this year, you're car is going to be fearsome! That car in stock form is really powerful and has outstanding gear ratios. You've already got a great suspension in there. Add the R-comps, LSD, flywheel, and a bit more driver skill, and there may be a new DSP champion in 05!

[101rs]

and there may be a new DSP champion in 05!
may doesn't belong in that statement:eek: :cool: :p :D

[gatherer]

Originally posted by miataboi
You can also download teh 2004 rulebook from here:
http://solo2ontario.com/info/documents/2004solo2rules.pdf

It'll also help you understand other classes and car-prep better I think...

and just because someone else tells you that you're in X class... ont he web... doesn't necissarily make it so...

You need to be 100% confident yourself...

thats some great advice Jay.

any series you want to compete in the first then you should do is get and read a copy of the rules

[Piotrov]

I have read through the booklet today and read the classification part a few times but now at least i understand where the points come from and stuff. So slowly im starting to understand :cool:

And the car has potential but my skill need alot of work! :D

[gatherer]

Originally posted by Piotrov

And the car has potential but my skill need alot of work! :D

then don't change the car...

(speaking from last years experience here)

I made small tweeks to the car I competed in throughout the year but those small tweeks were enough to throw off my driving for 1 or 2 events till I got it sorted out...


improve skill before improving car prep.

[miataboi]

Originally posted by gatherer
then don't change the car...

(speaking from last years experience here)

I made small tweeks to the car I competed in throughout the year but those small tweeks were enough to throw off my driving for 1 or 2 events till I got it sorted out...


improve skill before improving car prep.

...aren't you the one changing cars completely???
:eek:

That blue jellybean has potential... it's a decent car... just Hanif the hell out of it.

[gatherer]

Originally posted by miataboi
...aren't you the one changing cars completely???
:eek:

That blue jellybean has potential... it's a decent car... just Hanif the hell out of it.

this year no. I'm getting it ready at the beginning of hte year... buying the tires I need and going for it...

instead of Hanif'ing the hell out of it, I'd be happy just to drive it like a Miata driver did at the HADA shoot out.

[Piotrov]

Originally posted by gatherer
then don't change the car...

(speaking from last years experience here)

I made small tweeks to the car I competed in throughout the year but those small tweeks were enough to throw off my driving for 1 or 2 events till I got it sorted out...


improve skill before improving car prep.

I see your point!
Well its a long time till spring so ill have time to decide and plan out my budget.
I started off totaly on the wrong foot with starting solo 2 with a already modified car but im glad I got into it eather way.

[gatherer]

Originally posted by Piotrov
I see your point!
Well its a long time till spring so ill have time to decide and plan out my budget.


well looks like your starting on the right foot now

[rev]

:( Hey guys , I guess my very first post was destined to be a question.

I myself will be joining a club real soon and have decided to participate in solo 2 for the year of 2005.

I myself have doubts knowing my car is way overly moddified to start off with , but im optomistic.

Im just really going to put it out their , how competative or should I say difficult is street prep or modified class's?

Again i appologize if this question is a little off the wall but im just trying to plant myself in reality and know what im up against for this year.

P.s this will be my very first year compeating.


In case anybody is wondering I will be driving an 95 eagle talon awd turbo wich has been fairly moddified all around.

Thank you for the comments and any advice.

[JoeT]

Originally posted by rev
:Im just really going to put it out their , how competative or should I say difficult is street prep or modified class's?

Again i appologize if this question is a little off the wall but im just trying to plant myself in reality and know what im up against for this year.

In case anybody is wondering I will be driving an 95 eagle talon awd turbo wich has been fairly moddified all around.

Thank you for the comments and any advice.

Don't worry about being fast, just come out and have fun. That's the point of the game anyways.

If you really want to measure yourself agains the others in your class, check the results.

http://www.solo2ontario.com/events/results/2004/classes.pdf

If you're modded like crazy.. It's probably in ESP

Let us know what your mods are and we'll be able to help.

[rev]

:D Wow esp is pretty crazy and very tight but I welcome the challange and maybe I could play spoiler a few times this year.

Quick question befor I post my modd list , on that link their was TOTAL and NET, does this mean how much the driver won all together for those races they've participated in?

Ok I have a 95 eagle talon awd turbo
upgraded secret spec evo 3 16g turbo with a ss manifold and three inch exhaust
Sheet metal intake manifold
All piping was upgraded.
upgraded ss fuel line's and injectors
two racing bucket seats no back seat
upgraded clutch assembally with a fidenza flywheel
front and rear stb's and sway bars
17/9.5 advan rg rims with 275/40/17 tires
And a prototype suspension system that is yet not available
(it's currently being test fitted and will be in production soon)

Thats all i could think of right now without going into specific details like the rims weigh 18lbs .

But those are pretty much the logistics ,would engine upgrades be counted aswell?

[Tony Kloosterma]

Welcome to the wonderful world of ESP.

I am not at home now but pretty sure you will be in E/SP.

If you need any help or advise please feel free to stop by and see me.

#55 Blue Subaru


Tony

[JoeT]

All mods are considered, specially engine mods.


Originally posted by rev
:D Wow esp is pretty crazy and very tight but I welcome the challange and maybe I could play spoiler a few times this year.

Quick question befor I post my modd list , on that link their was TOTAL and NET, does this mean how much the driver won all together for those races they've participated in?

Ok I have a 95 eagle talon awd turbo
upgraded secret spec evo 3 16g turbo with a ss manifold and three inch exhaust
Sheet metal intake manifold
All piping was upgraded.
upgraded ss fuel line's and injectors
two racing bucket seats no back seat
upgraded clutch assembally with a fidenza flywheel
front and rear stb's and sway bars
17/9.5 advan rg rims with 275/40/17 tires
And a prototype suspension system that is yet not available
(it's currently being test fitted and will be in production soon)

Thats all i could think of right now without going into specific details like the rims weigh 18lbs .

But those are pretty much the logistics ,would engine upgrades be counted aswell?

[JoeT]

Oh.. The Tony guy that replied above my post, he's your competition.

No worries though, he's a granpa and he drives really really slooooooooowwwwww... If you're as good as you say, it will be a good time watching you two battling it out. Considering that his car is practically stock except for suspension.

LOL

[Tony Kloosterma]

Considering that his car is practically stock except for suspension.

That was last year Joe, this year I come to play:D

No worries though, he's a granpa and he drives really really slooooooooowwwwww...

No one ever tell you to respect your elders????

Tony

[JoeT]

Originally posted by Tony Kloosterma


No one ever tell you to respect your elders????

Tony

Absolutely! Yes! I've been told that. I do respect most older people, but I consider you more like an "older" brother than a father figure.

I'm not much younger than you.. .Bro.... LOL :D :p

So as an older brother... muahahahahahahahahaha

[rev]

:eek: omg all I read was champ this and champ that isnt that right Tony.

Well we'll keep our fingers crossed over here at my camp considering wisdom and experience will always over come talent. Talent is only a means of learning technique faster then others but can never compare to actual track knowledge like most of those guys have.

Again I will only be looking to play spoiler for this year and try and steal some points and from the top runners here and their through out all ten races. I have to become more acustomed to my car and it's curve befor I could really be able to duke it out with anybody.

Whats power if it cant be put to the ground ,hopefully if things go my way then I'll be puting it down to all four all summer long.;)