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[InsaneV]

Hello all!
Im new to the forum just thought Id say hi!
Im going to enter a few events this yr, really looking forward to it. I have a 02 sentra se-r with all the bolt ons avalible. I have removed the balance shaft assembly from the oil pan and was wondering if that will put me in a modified class. That is the only internal work done. I was told I will go through tires like crazy, is there any truth to that?

thanks for listening
Doug

[Nissan Racer]

BONE STOCK!LOL!
Konig Holes/Falken FK451's
Eibach swaybar kit(frt/rear)
Eibach sportline springs
BS removal kit JWT
UR pulley/PR CAI
HOTSHOT header w/custom exhaust/Vibrant muffler
ZEX Wet Nitrous system 55/65/75hp
81,000km on body
28,000km on engine, never had stock exhaust manifold installed!
Spare engine to build!When I have CASH?!
14.0@98mph 55shot of love!

This is your list right?

[Tony Kloosterma]

you will have to remove the nitrous system.
It is illegal in solo2

Tony

[InsaneV]

The hole system or just the bottle?
Yeah thats my list, but it needs updating, I have braided lines too:)

late model Sentras dont have a good turning radius, how tight are the coarses?

[Marsh]

Originally posted by InsaneV
The hole system or just the bottle?
Yeah thats my list, but it needs updating, I have braided lines too:)

late model Sentras dont have a good turning radius, how tight are the coarses?

Double check the rule book, but bottle removal I've always accepted at past events.

[ADAM]

i would hope you would only have to remove the bottle...taking the whole system out would be silly

IMO

[sjd]

By the looks of the list I think you'd be in DSP. I think the balance shaft/egg beater removal would fall under 4 points for engine internals.

[InsaneV]

Originally posted by sjd
By the looks of the list I think you'd be in DSP. I think the balance shaft/egg beater removal would fall under 4 points for engine internals.


thats what I was afraid of:(

[ShaneG]

SP even without the 4 points...

Eibach swaybar kit(frt/rear) 1each 2
Eibach sportline springs 3 (IIRC)
HOTSHOT header 2

7points there if my math still works ;)

btw Doug,
don't worry where you will end up..come out and have a good time just don't expect to win your class first time out. (although, you never know :) ) after you have done a few events an are as hooked as the rest of us are, you will re-evaluate and start going through the rule book with a fine toothed comb.

That said, driver skill is good for 4-5 points. There are many drivers here that will get into a stock car and proceed to post better times than a resonably modified car with a "good" driver

If you can, I would recommend attending the school, not sure if a date has been set yet but stay tuned here.

to answer your question about tire wear, Yes there will be increased tire wear, the amount will be determined by how you drive. I got a set of used R compound tires (Yoks Hard compound) and got a full year + a full lapping day, a lapping evening and a few laps in the morning (Solo 1) no cord yet, but I am probably really close:p YMMV

Course tightness! there were a few last year that were very tight, (full lock to full lock) but luckily most are / will be more open (less tight) but don't worry if there is one that is really tight, you will have a few experienced drivers complaining along with you.

right Marsh!:D

And Joe's car, as we all know, is too big and won't fit :D

[Tony Kloosterma]

plus 2 points for the underdrive pulley and 4 points for internal engine mods.

13 points in total

Best bet is to get a dedicated set of R compounds, 1 set should last a season.

The nitrous bottle would have to be removed. Please do not even think of bringing it to an event venue.

Tony

[Wedge]

Originally posted by Tony Kloosterma
plus 2 points for the underdrive pulley and 4 points for internal engine mods.

13 points in total


You don't need to claim 2 points for the pulley if you've already claimed 4 for the engine.

[Tony Kloosterma]

stand corrected.

if no internal engine mods were done then the pulley is 2 points.

apologies

[Guillermo]

There's a long and steep learning curve in the driving skills involved in doing well in solo 2. Just concentrate on having fun and learning. Winning will come with time and patience.
Don't be surprised if someone in a stock Echo beats you on your first day of racing :p

[InsaneV]

Im very excited about this, being beaten by a drunkin old man on a bicycle wont bother me, its the experience Im looking for. I have 20 yrs of driving under my belt and Ill prolly look like an ABC driving student:D Cant wait to meet you guys.

doug

[Tony Kloosterma]

Doug all the guys are very friendly. look any of us up or send a private PM and we will answer any and all of your questions.

Tony

[Director]

Doesn't internal engine mods only pertain to Cranks, Pistons, Cams? Does opening up oil passages count as internal engine mods?

[Marsh]

In the current rule book anything that is not listed as "aproved" is inherently illegal and will instantly move you to MOD. I know it sounds silly but I think it would have to go under internal engine mods. I haven't read that section in some time, but if it's not allowed maybe the rule book should have an allowment for lubrication modifications. I know I can't be the only person for whom a baffled oil pan would solve all of their starvation issues.

[InsaneV]

I dont feel the B/S removal created power, it only allowed power that was already there, a windage tray does not make power it only prevents oil slosh and burnt cranks. But I dont write the rules:p If I go into a modified class with turbo civics etc ill get destroyed pretty easy even with multiple events, but I'll give it hell anyway:D

[Tony Kloosterma]

i've read that section a few times, i think you will be under internal mods. 4 points.

still in SP

Tony

[max attack]

No worries about turbo civics in mod class,can't remember even one of the ***** kids doing anything but rev'n on the way by to show us who's the man.
Since your engine's bigger than 2.0 LTR's you would go to D-mod(thats if you were to get stuffed into mod,sounds unlikely however)with me(silly little rwd corolla;) )and a couple of cobra kit car's,maybe a modded corvette or 2 and a well driven fiero is rumoured to be running a few regionals this year.
Honestly it won't make much difference as dsp is a tough class(certain puke green golf is an unknown at this time still),like Tony says ask nearly anyone a question and you will get an honest reply to help you out.

[J.C.]

Originally posted by Director
Doesn't internal engine mods only pertain to Cranks, Pistons, Cams? Does opening up oil passages count as internal engine mods?

Last time I checked, crank change takes you directly to mod.

[Wedge]

Originally posted by J.C.
Last time I checked, crank change takes you directly to mod.

Not exactly. You can modify or replace the crank. You just cannot change the stroke in SP.

[J.C.]

Originally posted by Wedge
Not exactly. You can modify or replace the crank. You just cannot change the stroke in SP.

It says the stroke can not be changed. (agreed) However I do not see anywhere that it says the crank can be modified. If it does not say you can do it then you can not.

[andrew1984]

the john deere green golf has been sold.

no worries, it will return with a new driver.

:D

[gatherer]

:D

[Wedge]

Originally posted by J.C.
It says the stroke can not be changed. (agreed) However I do not see anywhere that it says the crank can be modified. If it does not say you can do it then you can not.

It also doesn't specifically say you can change the cams. But that's allowed, and plenty of SP guys have done that.

Read the prep point schedule:
6.8.E.6
Any other engine modification(s), subject to the following restrictions ...

Meaning, that if you claim 4 points for the engine, you can do absolutely anything you want to it. As long it's not one of the restricted mods.
The only restricted mods are: Cannot change the stroke, cannot change the number of cams, cannot change the number of valves, the cylinders bore may not be greater than manufacturers tolerances. I'm paraphrasing of course, but that's the jist of it.

[gatherer]

But Wedge if you continue to read in that statement it says cams can be changed and bore changed and a bunch of tother things

[InsaneV]

Im getting confused here? do I need someone to pit for me?

[gatherer]

Originally posted by InsaneV
Im getting confused here? do I need someone to pit for me?

yeah I use a little brother.. I get him to go around and talk to everyone else so that I can find out their game plans..:p

can you change your own tires?? (provided you bring R compounds) if so then you don't need a Pit crew...

[InsaneV]

I have ZR tires 17" but will I need to change them in one event? There may be too much involvment in this then I can handle. I just want to do alittle autoX , not go full out championship racing with pit crews and tire changes etc?:confused: I cant go spending tons of cash on tires , helmet etc and raise 3 children and an un-employeed wife.

now Im bummed out:(

[gatherer]

you don't need a pit crew I dojn't know anyone that has one. sure we bring family so that they may enjoy the event but a Pit crew ... no need....

you won't wear out your tires at one event. when I said changing tires is because most guys get to the event and change from street tires to r compound tires that they have on different wheels. come out to a spring event (once spring gets here) and you'll see what I'm talking about

[DareBee]

InsaneV

Nevermind the mumbling and ranting of these other "long term" lunatics:D . Just show up at a club event with almost any vehicle and DRIVE IT. A person in your position (Newbie who wants to try it) doesn't need to have a worry in the world about rules and classes. You WILL have fun. After a year or 2 of having FUN you may want to consider the classification rules and try to fit your car where you would like to go.
This http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/pitl/pitl-info.html is my club and we have fun events with open classifications, please feel free to join us for any events you wish.

[JoeT]

That's funny, I just sent him a PM with almost the same verbage. But I used different terminology when referring to the people here... :D Instead of Lunatics "Ego Maniacs" sounded appropriate at that time. :p

MSOC -> Newcomer friendly (except for Taira :D )

[Nissan Racer]

Originally posted by InsaneV
I have ZR tires 17" but will I need to change them in one event? There may be too much involvment in this then I can handle. I just want to do alittle autoX , not go full out championship racing with pit crews and tire changes etc?:confused: I cant go spending tons of cash on tires , helmet etc and raise 3 children and an un-employeed wife.

now Im bummed out:(
No worries, pit with me and I'll help you out.

[DareBee]

Thanks Joe

Ego maniacs is pretty much the truth about all of us. Some of us are just better at temporarily suppressing it.

[finboy]

Originally posted by JoeT


MSOC -> Newcomer friendly (except for Taira :D )


that ain't what your mama said last nite


:eek:


don't worry what class/mods blah blah balh....

you'll most likely be humbled at your first event... from a newbie point... all you'll want to do is get a clean run

[JoeT]

Originally posted by finboy
that ain't what your mama said last nite


:eek:



Wow!! I never knew you were into Necrophelia! Intersting, must be the colour of hair, hummmm.