View Full Version : A mod - what would it take
gatherer
07-02-2005, 11:02 AM
simple question... what sort of knowledge would it take to build a A-MOD car from Scratch?
(just trying to open up discussions)
angrytegR
07-02-2005, 05:27 PM
There's a couple guys in BC that have been building the fastests A mod cars. I believe their famous one was called "The Phantom". Super light-wieght (500 lbs or so?), modded snowmobile engine using the continously variable belt set-up and crazy wings that make it so you accelerate into the turns to create huge downforce.
gatherer
07-04-2005, 02:03 PM
yeah I've heard about them and read about that car.... but I'm inteested in other people's opinions on what knowledge it would take to build a car for a mod
holliko
07-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Why not just buy a CMOD car.... 1.5 litre turbo.....
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1077111594/1077111594ss.htm
gatherer
07-04-2005, 03:03 PM
price is on the high side... plus I'd liek the rewarding challange of building a car...
isn't that a A-mod car if it was even allowed? isn't there a rule that cars have to self start?
thekid
07-04-2005, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=gatherer]price is on the high side... plus I'd liek the rewarding challange of building a car...
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i've got a shell for sale that is challenging and ready to be built! :rolleyes:
gatherer
07-04-2005, 04:01 PM
Brian .. yes I know you have one.. and yes Cmod would e a fun class.. but Amod would be a class all by itself... seems like everyone here wants to stay with Chassises that are developed by a manufacturer...
(again I'm just curious on the knowledge it would take to build a A-mod car...)
ok so fabrication skills would be required. also you'd have to understand chassis dyanmics... and suspension engineering... also there's the engine stuff...
Marsh
07-04-2005, 05:40 PM
I've done it before (SAE car). The problem isn't building one. The problem is knowing how to design the suspension so that it was actually competitive. I'm quite confident I could do it single handed if I had access to a welder, mill and lathe. I figured I could build one myself for around $20,000 - $30,000 with all the machine equipment. Closer to $50,000 without.
We got the Western car down to 470 pounds dry, with a steel frame and alluminum stressed skin. I'm confident that I could build a 150 hp car that was stiff and CASC legal and keep it well under the minimum weight.
BTW a WOSCA member, Doug Elcombe, has all said equipment, but uses it to build and maintain his classic forumla cars. But with Jeremy Schmidt (a former Waterloo suspension guy) hanging around I figure it's only a matter of time before an A-mod solo car springs from that garage.
If the money fairy ever comes to visit I still plan on building an A-mod car for SCCA nationals. Remember that the solo rule book is the worlds least restrictive performance rules on earth (save maybe Pikes Peak), so there is a LOT you can get away with. The only limit is size and money.
Oh and engine stuff is for your engine builder. You can always spot an amateur at the track if he's fiddling under his own hood. State a budget, and an engine life expentancy then pay a pro to build you an engine with as much power as you can afford that will last as long as you need.
Guillermo
07-04-2005, 10:44 PM
This book might help:
'Build Your Own Sports Car for as Little as £250 and RACE IT !' (http://www.championmotorcars.com/history.htm)
Wedge
07-05-2005, 11:42 AM
Why not just buy a CMOD car.... 1.5 litre turbo.....
1.5 turbo would be D Mod
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