Free Lapping at Dunnville Autodrome August 20

[Crusher45]

For those interested BARC Member Tommy Mechan has offered up the Dunnville Autodrome for free lapping Saturday August 20 from 9am to 4pm. You can bring whatever you want to try on the track. Street cars, race cars, whatever. Yes there is a catch. You need to email me at crusher45 AT powergate DOT ca to get your name on the list on or before 6pm Thursday August 18. Everyone registered will be eligible.

Also for those who would like to try a race car, they have one for rent at $20 for 5 laps.

I do not know the set up but I know free works well for me.

For those who don't know the facility go here http://www.dunnvilleautodrome.com/

[tanney]

I'd probably be all over that, but I will be in Red Deer representing Ontario at the Canadian Autoslalom Championships!

[haniforama]

And I'll be on the other side of the Atlantic... Damn - free testing before the SOLO1 wekened would have been nice!

[Modfire]

oh yeah.. looks like i need to open up my calander!!

[spoonie]

awesome. i'm out of r-comps....tempting to do this on street rubber just for the fun of it.

[13inches]

You got mail!

[Crusher45]

awesome. i'm out of r-comps....tempting to do this on street rubber just for the fun of it.
So do it!

[Marsh]

Ah another excuse to burn up the Yokos!

[njansenv]

My poor Azenis won't know what hit 'em. Out in a blaze of glory.... ;)
Any requirements for 'open track newbies' such as myself? I've been looking forward to trying a lapping day....

Nathan

edited for speeling

[JoeT]

Just a quicky question, how many people are you capping this to, and what level of experience.

Great idea...

Thanks



For those interested BARC Member Tommy Mechan has offered up the Dunnville Autodrome for free lapping Saturday August 20 from 9am to 4pm. You can bring whatever you want to try on the track. Street cars, race cars, whatever. Yes there is a catch. You need to email me at crusher45 AT powergate DOT ca to get your name on the list on or before 6pm Thursday August 18. Everyone registered will be eligible.

Also for those who would like to try a race car, they have one for rent at $20 for 5 laps.

I do not know the set up but I know free works well for me.

For those who don't knwo the facility go here http://www.dunnvilleautodrome.com/

[spoonie]

So do it!


oh, i am! i'm so in. :)

[Crusher45]

Just a quicky question, how many people are you capping this to, and what level of experience.

Great idea...

Thanks

We will see what sort of response we have to this but 80 is the max. It is open to everyone also regional racers so look out for the big toys. Maybe an ice racer or two. Even a Yugo or a bug eyed sprite.

[JoeT]

We will see what sort of response we have to this but 80 is the max. It is open to everyone also regional racers so look out for the big toys.

Woohoo, email being sent as we speak.. Big thanks.

I was just worried about "The other guys"... ;)

[J.C.]

Message sent.

[Crusher45]

Woohoo, email being sent as we speak.. Big thanks.

I was just worried about "The other guys"... ;)

As they are of you!

:eek: :D ;)

[JoeT]

As they are of you!

:eek: :D ;)

Hey, I resemble that remark... LOL

I'm harmless, it's the car that leaves tranny pieces all over.. LOL

[Crusher45]

Hey, I resemble that remark... LOL

I'm harmless, it's the car that leaves tranny pieces all over.. LOL

You're a tranny? Oh, well I don't know if we can let them run. Oh what the hell, yes but no dresses!

:eek:

[Daniel]

e-mail sent...

Need to break-in the new car QUICKLY!!!! :D ;)

[George]

Email sent.

[Gen1GT]

I just realized why the overhead photo looks familiar! There was a 3-day rave there back in 2000, the World Electronic Music Festival, or WEMF. The camping area was where the racetrack is now, and since it was an old airport, you can still see the runways. The main aircraft hanger was the main stage area, and the doors were left open.

Started Friday at noon, ended Sunday at 5...no sleep... :D

[miataboi]

e-mail sent...

Need to break-in the new car QUICKLY!!!! :D ;)

I believe tha Dunneville is said to be... and also would appear to be... tough on brakes.

I BELIEVE that others have smoked their stock pads pretty easily while beating on a Mini... and replacements seem harder to come by... I believe Hawk makes stuff though.

I've got a set of shaved 225/45/15 V700's that would work for hammering on if interested??? $350

[foudelatwee]

Also for those who would like to try a race car, they have one for rent at $20 for 5 laps.


Do we absolutely have to bring our car or we can go just to try the race car?

do we need experience or anything particular to try the race car?

[Steven Scala]

Spoke to Tommy this week myself. I'll definitely be coming around for a taste of those ChampCar Lights machines. Let's see. $160 divided by $5...that's eight bunches of 5 laps each...

[DasVW]

80 cars ?! Traffic jam city. That course looks small and narrow, but it is an aerial shot, anyone drvien here before, what is the track like? Fast, slow, etc.

[Modfire]

i was told that the track will set it up accordingly for the amount of cars that wil be there... don't be suprised if we go out in groups with a timed sprint....

kinda like go-karting ;)

[Marsh]

80 cars ?! Traffic jam city. That course looks small and narrow, but it is an aerial shot, anyone drvien here before, what is the track like? Fast, slow, etc.

Hey it's free. If you get one session then you got your moneys worth.

[Crusher45]

Do we absolutely have to bring our car or we can go just to try the race car?

do we need experience or anything particular to try the race car?

You need $20 and a basic race licence.

[Marsh]

You need $20 and a basic race licence.

Oh, I didn't see the basic race license part in the original post.

I don't sopose they'll accept "Qualify" for a basic race license.

[spoonie]

Oh, I didn't see the basic race license part in the original post.

I don't sopose they'll accept "Qualify" for a basic race license.

marsh, it looks like its just race license if you want to rent their race cars only.

[Crusher45]

marsh, it looks like its just race license if you want to rent their race cars only.

That is correct, not for lapping. But if you can prove yourself during lapping you should be able to rent the ride in the mini Champ Car.

[Marsh]

That is correct, not for lapping. But if you can prove yourself during lapping you should be able to rent the ride in the mini Champ Car.

OK, I've taken the HRC school etc. But don't have a car to pursue my license with so never bothered.

[Crusher45]

OK, I've taken the HRC school etc. But don't have a car to pursue my license with so never bothered.

Just ask them Im sure they'll let you.

[BrentW]

Just sent a sign up email... hopefully there's still room...!

[foudelatwee]

is passenger's allowed?

what time do we have to be there?

is there a place where we can get food?

and how many laps we can do?

[Crusher45]

is passenger's allowed? Don't know.

what time do we have to be there? Before 9am

is there a place where we can get food? Don't know but I suspect so.

and how many laps we can do? Don't know.

I am just gathering names for this event put on by BARC Member Tommy Meechan. I myself will not be there as I work for CASCAR and we race in Peterborough Saturday.

[foudelatwee]

Don't know.

I am just gathering names for this event put on by BARC Member Tommy Meechan. I myself will not be there as I work for CASCAR and we race in Peterborough Saturday.


Thanks...

I can't wait until Saterday now :)

[Crusher45]

Registration is now closed.

Have fun Saturday!

[spoonie]

anyone doing a cruise to this place sat morning from the east end? (scarlem)

[Stan944]

I signed up too. Anybody knows what happens in case of thundershowers or rain? I checked the forecast: chance of thunderstorms and 60% POP.

[Crusher45]

It's still a go.

[Modfire]

good thing my tires are rated AA for wet conditions :)

[Stan944]

It's still a go.
cool

[Marsh]

I signed up too. Anybody knows what happens in case of thundershowers or rain? I checked the forecast: chance of thunderstorms and 60% POP.

Stan, what have you been hanging around drag racers? Sports car guys don't stop an event until it's unsafe to STAND outside.

[Stan944]

Sports car guys don't stop an event until it's unsafe to STAND outside.
I like this one.
Marshall, I believe you're coming too? It will be nice to see familiar faces.

[soloZ]

Any new info on this lapping day? like time to be there?

[Crusher45]

Any new info on this lapping day? like time to be there?

As it says at the start of this post. 9am.

[BrentW]

anyone doing a cruise to this place sat morning from the east end? (scarlem)

I'll be cruising over from Whitby with another SPDA member tomorrow. So we can mee you along the way.

[njansenv]

Silly question: what are the safety standards this lapping day will be sticking with? Riders? Helmets? Other 'goon's' the track? Not having done this before, I have some (mild) apprehension...

Also, while I've been planning to buy a helmet for a while now, will I need one for tomorrow?

[Marsh]

While I'm sure any CASC member run lapping day will be safely organized, it would be prudent to know some rules ahead of time. An open track "pass anywhere" policy is certainly not rookie friendly.

[spoonie]

While I'm sure any CASC member run lapping day will be safely organized, it would be prudent to know some rules ahead of time. An open track "pass anywhere" policy is certainly not rookie friendly.


i agree. somehow i hope i'm not on-track where corner passing is allowed, and i'm holding up a track-prepped viper- or a track prepped geo metro, for that matter :P

anyway, i'll be here around 7:30 AM (tim hortons 'B')

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=tim+hortons&sll=43.239951,-79.760045&spn=0.102288,0.177266&sspn=0.006729,0.011662&num=10&start=0&hl=en

[Cheers!]

You guys bringing the R compounds with u?

[spoonie]

my r-comps are cooked. they'll last 3-4 more auto-x days, but i think i'll end up blowing one if i take it out on another lapping day. its horrid-streets over-pumped for me tomorrow. hopefully its raining :)

[Crusher45]

Silly question: what are the safety standards this lapping day will be sticking with? Riders? Helmets? Other 'goon's' the track? Not having done this before, I have some (mild) apprehension...

Also, while I've been planning to buy a helmet for a while now, will I need one for tomorrow?

Yes, silly questions.

[Crusher45]

While I'm sure any CASC member run lapping day will be safely organized, it would be prudent to know some rules ahead of time. An open track "pass anywhere" policy is certainly not rookie friendly.

No passing. This is lapping not racing. For passing go to regional racing. There is a Marque division for everyone.

[Crusher45]

my r-comps are cooked. they'll last 3-4 more auto-x days, but i think i'll end up blowing one if i take it out on another lapping day. its horrid-streets over-pumped for me tomorrow. hopefully its raining :)

No rain!

[Steven Scala]

Rain!

Hey, Perry! How's that dance go?

Ooga chaga ooga ooga...

[spoonie]

Rain!

Hey, Perry! How's that dance go?

Ooga chaga ooga ooga...


i'll join in on that song and dance! ahahah :)

[njansenv]

Yes, silly questions.

In any case, are there answers to these silly questions? :D



(as in: should I go pick up a helmet tonight to use tomorrow?)

[Crusher45]

In any case, are there answers to these silly questions? :D



(as in: should I go pick up a helmet tonight to use tomorrow?)

Could be.

[Crusher45]

i'll join in on that song and dance! ahahah :)

Where's my cricket bat!

:eek:

[njansenv]

Bah. If those are the only answers I'm gonna get, I'm gonna have to stay home. I know you're only joking around, but I'd rather not drive out there only to find out I needed a helmet, and not have one. I have a family member who's interested in rides, but doesn't feel like the 2hr drive to find out he's not welcome. I didn't think they were unreasonable questions.

[Crusher45]

Silly question: what are the safety standards this lapping day will be sticking with? Riders? Helmets? Other 'goon's' the track? Not having done this before, I have some (mild) apprehension...

Also, while I've been planning to buy a helmet for a while now, will I need one for tomorrow?

It's the same as Solo I.
Car has to be safe.
Lapping will be set up by Tommy Meechan.
Riders - yes.
Helmets? Well driver's need something to contain there egos and their head. YES.
Most goons race on nice industrial streets at 2am. Any infractions here and they are reported to their insurance company.
Show up, if you don't like what you see then leave. No one is asking you or demanding you to go out there for free laps. That just means more time for someone else.

I will not be there tomorrow as I work for CASCAR and we are in Peterborough NOT in the rain! Have fun and watch out for that F2000 and the Viper and Steve Scala. Are these things are deadly especially combined together.

:D

[njansenv]

Thank you. That's all. ;)

By goons I meant inexperienced, potentially dangerous (if not knowing the rules) guys such as myself. I simply wanted to know a few more details.

Have a great time this weekend.

[Crusher45]

Bah. If those are the only answers I'm gonna get, I'm gonna have to stay home. I know you're only joking around, but I'd rather not drive out there only to find out I needed a helmet, and not have one. I have a family member who's interested in rides, but doesn't feel like the 2hr drive to find out he's not welcome. I didn't think they were unreasonable questions.

Edited 'cause I was being an a**hole. SORRY!

:(

[njansenv]

I'm really confused.......



I certainly didn't mean to offend. As I explained to you in my application for registration, I'm completely new to this. I have no problem getting a helmet, but I used that as an example.

Apologies, and I guess I'll have to try lapping some other time.

[Steven Scala]

Hey Crusher, be easy on the noobs, will ya?

Recommended or not, helmet-less lapping is known to happen sometimes.

[George]

I'm really confused.......



I certainly didn't mean to offend. As I explained to you in my application for registration, I'm completely new to this. I have no problem getting a helmet, but I used that as an example.

Apologies, and I guess I'll have to try lapping some other time.

Oshawa Motor Sports Club puts on a number of lap days in conjunction with the Ian Law Driving School; both are highly regarded. It would probably be a good idea to take the school first and see how it works out for you.

[spoonie]

agreed. DDT is a very forgiving track, even when its setup at its fastest.

~spoonie

[Crusher45]

Hey Crusher, be easy on the noobs, will ya?

Recommended or not, helmet-less lapping is known to happen sometimes.

Sorry Stevie. BUT I hate events that are brainless. Oops helmetless. Anyway as stated earlier Solo I rules prevaile and yes you'll need a helemt and yes you can bring a passenger with a helemt and if they can keep their pants dry and yes you, njansenv are on the list and yes enjoy yourself. BUT if you want true racing try Ice Racing. There is no finest racing in Canada.

I just got mixed up with the postings. Look at the times,

:p :confused: :o

[Steven Scala]

Ah, yes. The truth is always in the times...

[njansenv]

Thanks Crusher. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

I'm not sure I would be up to iceracing my POS just yet though....maybe next year.

All the best "up north" this weekend!

Nathan

[spoonie]

anyone know how much life is left in an RA-1 when the 2 lines are *just* visible?

[Nissan Racer]

At least 1 lapping day :D

[spoonie]

At least 1 lapping day :D


are you just telling me what i want to hear? ahahahahah :D

[Nissan Racer]

Lol...yes and no.
On Perry's Touring car we run the tire (usually with best results) after all the lines are gone. And he can do a 40 minute race on those.
http://www.toyoracing.com/TireInfo/RA1_tires.asp
Scroll down, for best results Toyo recommends shaving until only two grooves are visible

[spoonie]

ah ok, excellent. so there's no danger of one "popping" ? this is the first set of r-comps i've ever owned, so i have no idea where the "death bar" is. thx for your replies - its going to make my day far more enjoyable to run these instead of my no-name (ok, they have a name) "Riken Raptor VR" soft-compound crap-o-rama tire.

[soloZ]

Pat are you going? and where were you in Montreal???????

[rainman]

ah ok, excellent. so there's no danger of one "popping" ? this is the first set of r-comps i've ever owned, so i have no idea where the "death bar" is.

You can run them until the cords just start to show- just keep a close watch on them and you'll be fine.

[Nissan Racer]

Pat are you going? and where were you in Montreal???????
Yes I will be there, as for Montreal...I like my stuff, in Quebec stuff disappears.

[ShaneG]

I had to bail! :mad:

went downstairs last night/ evening to do an oil change and load the car, when I noticed the front LCA bushing was allowing about a inch of play on the left side :eek:

Crusher, please apologise to Tommy for me.

Shane

[miataboi]

Now THAT.... was a cool day!
:D :D :D


Sitting in that Formula Renault car... with it's relatively high centre nose... and the tube frame and h-box shifter... with orange Nomex gloves... is LOOKED like the older footage of Senna... when they still actually shifted!

Only I was the driver! :cool:



Pretty neat cars!
Like a close-ratio'd, wider and longer wheelbased, rear-engined supercharged Miata on slicks!

WOO-HOO!

[miataboi]

I had to bail! :mad:

went downstairs last night/ evening to do an oil change and load the car, when I noticed the front LCA bushing was allowing about a inch of play on the left side :eek:

Crusher, please apologise to Tommy for me.

Shane

Don't get me started on bad days with front, lower control arms!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[BrentW]

Awesome, awesome day!
Big thanks to BARC's Tommy Mechan for putting this together.

Now I'm sitting here thinking of ways to improve the handling and braking of my car for track days! Much, much different than SoloII events, I was a wee bit surprised on how hot things get!

[Steven Scala]

So disappointed I missed out. The Saturn threw an alternator and ate a battery on the way to Dunnville this morning.

This is the second open-wheel seat that's fallen through for me this year. Go figure.

[soloZ]

I was so hoping I would be able to drive the champ lite cars but so many people and so little time, ohwell free lapping doesn't hurt unless you do something stupid(go off on corner 1 two or three times and then do it again and hit a big white bail). Thanks again Tommy for a good day out.

[Dave]

Yes, thanks Tommy and thanks Crusher!

BrentW, Dunnville is not a typical road course in that it puts a huge amount of heat into the brakes because of all the fairly fast straights with very sharp/slow corners at the end of them. There isn't enough time between heavy braking zones for the braking system to cool down, so the heat just keeps on building. At Shannonville and Mosport and just about any other road course I've ever been to (and I've been to many), there's enough cool down time between heavier braking zones that it's far less of an issue. Dunnville is just murder on brakes, plain and simple, especially if you're on a street pad or mild performance pad.

[Nissan Racer]

I was so hoping I would be able to drive the champ lite cars but so many people and so little time, ohwell free lapping doesn't hurt unless you do something stupid(go off on corner 1 two or three times and then do it again and hit a big white bail). Thanks again Tommy for a good day out.
Then again in a Formula car...gotta wonder why someone would get in a Formula when they couldn't control their own car? Hopefully they can get that poor Formula Renault straight and back together.

[miataboi]

Then again in a Formula car...gotta wonder why someone would get in a Formula when they couldn't control their own car? Hopefully they can get that poor Formula Renault straight and back together.

Ego... fun-factor... and "because it was there" I assume. (in fact.. .it was so cheap... that the "barriers to entry" was so low that it didn't weed out only the most serious... I'd have paid $300 - $400 for my experience. Even that can't be beat.... and at even half of that price... it would have weeded out the whimsical ones... but not the maniac with $$$... so can't stop them all! :D

I took off early... and don't know what happened... but honestly said... that with that lineup of people waiting... they OBVIOUSLY didn't ALL know how to control a car well... and MOST were FWD drivers... and they were not checking for race licenses or high powered rwd experience... so the potential was certainly there for Darwin to raise his ugly head....

Seems that everyONE was fine... that's good...

Any other drama / "offs"?

I think that Dunneville would be really fun in a low-powered momentum car. You'd be severely penalized if you scrub too much speed! Like an low-powered H-stock - C-Stock car!

In a hi-po car... it COULD he tough on brakes... but in the formula car... it was fun too...




WISH there were more sweepers.... but there were a couple of them... and the "land-change" / chicane was a BLAST flat-out shifting into top-gear on the main straight!

[miataboi]

Yes, thanks Tommy and thanks Crusher!


Agreed... THANKS!

Was Tommy the Scottsman that is part-owner?
Pretty cool getting into a formula car... SEEING yourself as Senna in the cockpit... then closing your eyes and hearing "Jackie Stewart" give you personal instruction....

:eek: :D :D :p


Dunneville is a great lapping day track... and it's closer than Shannonville for anyone in the the city... and closer than Mosport for anyone west of the city.

They should just sell brake bleeding services and stock lots of stock pads for those casual lappers who want to make it home without having to rely on downshifting to slow the car down! :D

[Taylor]

Formula Renault?

You sure about that? I was never aware that Tommy and Lee (hah! Tommy-Lee :) had a Fran-Am car. But they sure as heck have a cache of Champ Lite's.. Neon engines I think right?

If it was a Formula Renault, it would have been a full carbon fibre body, and the steeringwheel is a full on control panel. Sequential Gearbox too. A very "expensive" car I don't see anyone letting people drive for $20.

[miataboi]

Formula Renault?

You sure about that? I was never aware that Tommy and Lee (hah! Tommy-Lee :) had a Fran-Am car. But they sure as heck have a cache of Champ Lite's.. Neon engines I think right?

If it was a Formula Renault, it would have been a full carbon fibre body, and the steeringwheel is a full on control panel. Sequential Gearbox too. A very "expensive" car I don't see anyone letting people drive for $20.

He was telling me that it was the PREVIOUS gen of formula renault cars...

tube-frame... h-box etc.
Van Diemen chassis, etc.

There WAS a "current" F.R. car... with sequential gearbox that someone appeared with... sounded GREAT out there!


I think the "Champ Lite" series was comprised of PREVIOUS gen F.R. cars from what little I know / can gather... may be wrong tho... has happened before! :D :D

[Taylor]

Hrm... I suppose that's possible, though I thought those champ lites ran a Dodge Neon engine.

Yeah that Formula Renault guy is in HADA. :) He's a lapping day whore. :)

[miataboi]

Hrm... I suppose that's possible, though I thought those champ lites ran a Dodge Neon engine.

Yeah that Formula Renault guy is in HADA. He's a lapping day whore.


Nice lapping-day beater!
I know a guy who's got one too... M.F. fortune! Too bad they killed the series... and there's MILLIONS of $$$ of AWESOME machines sitting idle. worth pennies on the $$$...

They are LIKE the new Formula Mazda series.. C.F. tubs, etc.

They still run the F.R. in mexico / south america... so some are selling them down there for a bit of $$$ back... :(

Never noticed the motor-make.... but I didn't have any head-gasket failures... so I'm not sure it was from a neon! :eek: :D :p


They revved and pulled to 8K+ so it MUST have either been worked over heavily... or it wasn't a neon motor!

I gotta find out the specs (weight and power) of these little cars. From feel??? I'd W.A.G. about 1600 lbs and 170-180 hp????? We'll see how close that is...

[miataboi]

It was one of these...

http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/vandiemn/1065716594/1065716594ss.htm
http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/vandiemn/1065716594/1065716594pp.htm

Description
Ex works Van Diemen RF98/Formula Renault 2000 /Immaculate rebuild and maintained by professional team (ex F1 engineers) only 4 races in BARC Formula Renault 2000 UK-championship due to drivers commitment in another series. PI 3 Data logger, various spares included,Solus 2ltr. 16V Renault Sports engine, 5 speed Hewland gearbox with spare ratios included. Complete almost new set of dry and wet Michelin on Mad'in rims. Manufacturers data book available.

Performance Data
Class: FRenault/Monoposto
Weight: 460 lbs
Track: Castle Combe
Engine
Engine Builder: Solus
Manufacturer: Renault Sport
Type: 2ltr. 16V
Horsepower: 165 with limiter, 180 without
Heads: Solus Renault Sport, injection
Block: Renault Sport



460 LBS???
wtf?
TUBES ALONE???
Seems too heavy for just the powertrain... and too light for the chassis.
:confused:


It wasn't THAT fast!
And the green ones (from Quebec) were faster than the white one... can only imagine it was a limiter... or a different motor.

[miataboi]

"CURRENT" spec.

Series is dead here... still alive and kicking in Europe and S.A.
http://www.renault-sport.com/en/world_series/formulaV6/fiche_technique.php

I still want a Formula Mazda Renesis car!!!

[Nissan Racer]

Formula Renault?

You sure about that? I was never aware that Tommy and Lee (hah! Tommy-Lee :) had a Fran-Am car. But they sure as heck have a cache of Champ Lite's.. Neon engines I think right?

If it was a Formula Renault, it would have been a full carbon fibre body, and the steeringwheel is a full on control panel. Sequential Gearbox too. A very "expensive" car I don't see anyone letting people drive for $20.
Well it said 'Renault' on the engine...so I doubt it was from a Neon

[Nissan Racer]

Seems that everyONE was fine... that's good...

Any other drama / "offs"?


I had a bit of an off on the last lap, missed a shift going into turn one and stepped the back end out...no damage, just embarassing. But I was getting down into laps in the 1:20:'s (1:20:88) so I was getting a little bold maybe..if the car hadn't been stuttering coming onto the hanger straight I might have shaved a bit over a second off that time.

[spoonie]

thanks to all involved for a wonderful event. that it was free blows my mind. everyone was well behaved, there was a few dramatic events (my off at the fist 90degree turn - brake problem) - and an nsx going off right infront of me after the inner back-straight.

thankfully, neither of us suffered any damage. no, wait, i cracked my front lip. that's racing :P

an awesome day. thanks so much.

now, i have about 1.8gigs of pictures that my friend took. i think he'll end up posting them somewhere. i'll let you guys know when and where.

~spoonie

[Marsh]

I gotta find out the specs (weight and power) of these little cars. From feel??? I'd W.A.G. about 1600 lbs and 170-180 hp????? We'll see how close that is...

I'm not sure about the power, but I would guess lower than you've suggested because I know the cars are light, and they didn't feel terribly quick in a straight line.

So was there an incident in the Formula cars after I left? I think Soloz is talking about the STI that went off in turn 1, 3 times in 3 laps, finally culminating in hitting a hay bail that was quite some distance from the track! Certainly not the most intelligent driving display I've ever seen. I'm hoping it wasn't anyone I know driving. In fact if it was I'd rather not know.

Until I left I think I had the biggest moment in the Formula cars when I spun in the kink in back (turn 3 I think) and went off making a decent sized mess. Didn't damage the car and managed to keep the engine lit and drive back on, but it was more than a little embarassing.

[George]

All in all a very nice day and thanks to those who organized this.

I have never trashed my brakes so quickly before. Changed the pads and bled the system the night before but the brakes were all but gone after 3 sessions.

Only regret is that my size 12 shoes were too big to operate the peddles in the formula cars so I had to pass on that.

[Doug Phillips]

Only regret is that my size 12 shoes were too big to operate the peddles in the formula cars so I had to pass on that.


Gee George, with those feet you must have been driving Flintstone gokarts in your previous life. :D

[Nissan Racer]

So was there an incident in the Formula cars after I left? I think Soloz is talking about the STI that went off in turn 1, 3 times in 3 laps, finally culminating in hitting a hay bail that was quite some distance from the track! Certainly not the most intelligent driving display I've ever seen. I'm hoping it wasn't anyone I know driving. In fact if it was I'd rather not know.


Yes, after taking his own car off track several times (the STi) they let him drive one of the Formula cars and he promptly put it through some hay bales before he got to turn 1...pretty much wrecked the car, lost it's nose cone and looks like it might have bent something.

I had a spin at turn one as well, but not nearly as bad...I missed third gear on the downshift and looped the car. A bit embarrasing but no damage.

[Crusher45]

Formula Renault?

You sure about that? I was never aware that Tommy and Lee (hah! Tommy-Lee :) had a Fran-Am car. But they sure as heck have a cache of Champ Lite's.. Neon engines I think right?

If it was a Formula Renault, it would have been a full carbon fibre body, and the steeringwheel is a full on control panel. Sequential Gearbox too. A very "expensive" car I don't see anyone letting people drive for $20.

The car is a Formula Renault 2000. It was raced in the Fran Am series up to this year. Andrew Ranger was in the series and raced against it. I can't remember the driver's name but finished 2nd in two Molson Indy's in Toronto behind Ranger. As for the Tommy, yes he is the Scotsman and wanted everyone to come out and enjoy his track. He is involved in it. I hope everyone had a good time. Send me an email if you want to thank Tommy and I will give them to him at our next BARC meeting September 6th at the Markland Pub in Etobicoke where everyone is welcomed not only BARC members. (Shameless plug for BARC) :D

[miataboi]

The car is a Formula Renault 2000. It was raced in the Fran Am series up to this year. Andrew Ranger was in the series and raced against it. I can't remember the driver's name but finished 2nd in two Molson Indy's in Toronto behind Ranger. As for the Tommy, yes he is the Scotsman and wanted everyone to come out and enjoy his track. He is involved in it. I hope everyone had a good time. Send me an email if you want to thank Tommy and I will give them to him at our next BARC meeting September 6th at the Markland Pub in Etobicoke where everyone is welcomed not only BARC members. (Shameless plug for BARC) :D


Can you do me a favour???

Ask Tommy if he'd let me put some Reynards... or hell... even Ultra Grip Ice's on one of the cars for Minden this upcoming season...

please?
:D

[njansenv]

What a fantastic day. Thanks to Tommy and everyone else involved in setting this up. Everyone I talked to had a blast.

(even the guy who discovered that a 2.4T motor at high rpms in a sweeper = oil starvation. Oil starvation is a bitch.)

Nathan

[George]

Gee George, with those feet you must have been driving Flintstone gokarts in your previous life. :D

Yeah, I used them as brakes as well so in 100cc International it was a bit of an advantage..lol

[foudelatwee]

I want to thanks everyone who made that day happened. It was very nice to give anybody the opportunity to try a race track, even the inexperienced ones...

I really like soloII but I have to say that this was a lot more fun...and much easier too, for my kind of car soloII is not the best...

I'm really happy and proud of myself that I didn't crash the car or gone off road, that's what I was scared of, but the track was not too big or too fast, so I was happy to see that it was not too dangerous...

I really enjoyed and I think I did pretty good for a 1st time, I wish we could do that all the time but it's too hard on the car, I couldn’t go for a 2nd run because it started leaking oil from the blow off, and we wanted to have brakes for the ride back home! Maybe 15 minutes a session was a little too long...

Is anybody know what was the time for 1 lap, did some of you took their time, I'd like to know...

Again, thank you so much for that wonderful day :)

[Dave]

I was doing 1:19's, though I've done 1:18's in the past. I have one of the faster cars for Dunnville (red Civic hatch with Type R engine, full race suspension, and lots of brakes, race tires). A less modified car on street tires would probably be 10-12 seconds slower, depending on the driver. A well driven car with good brakes and r-compound tires will be in the mid to low 1:20's or better. Dunnville puts a premium on brakes and nimble handling thru the tight corners, so the bigger heavier cars tend to suffer there.

[Modfire]

well i had a blast!

i'll see what my times are after reviewing the vid from the cam mounted in my car :D


i found that my car for what it is handled great! the tires held up pretty good and in the wet as well... not much difference in the wet. My brakes were alot of fun the entire day... smoking.. and spongey LOL

i took the formula car out for a boot... and no i wasn't the one who crashed it. but i did spin it out once on the 3rd lap :( but the feel of the car was awesome... for sure something i would like to try/ do again.

all in all this day felt like i was playing grand turismo.. :D


MANY thanks to the organizer!!!!!

i have some pics... anyone wanna host?

[Nissan Racer]

In my Sentra I was doing 1:26's in the Formula Renault I was 1:20:88

[JAYh]

Well, I was able to get five laps in at the end of the day. Seeing how quickly my brakes faded to nothing (in the wet!!) makes me think I should do some more upgrades before I go lapping again (although most of you with street cars seemed to be having brakes issues.) It was fun though, I'm glad I was able to get a few rounds in after I patched my poor car up. Hope the oil slick in the paddock isn't too big. Whoops.

Thanks again for the free laps guys!

- J

[miataboi]

Pat or anyone else...

Got pics from the lapping day?
I'm interested in the one of me in the F.R. 2k specifically... but I'd like to see them all, really!

[Nissan Racer]

I might have some pics from the FR I'll have a look, which car and what color helmet?

[miataboi]

I might have some pics from the FR I'll have a look, which car and what color helmet?


Blue helmet....
Perma grin once it came off.

First went out in the white car that come apart....

Then a green one that was much stronger. (structurally and motor-wise) - although that one had a problem with the steering rack or the wheel-hub.

I'd love a pic if you have one... I think your girl took a pic...

THX!

[Marsh]

You were driving the green with yellow nose. I was in the green with white nose.

[Nissan Racer]

I know we have some pics of Marsh, pretty sure we have both

[Tigger Gal]

I've got all the pics of you boys playing in the FRenault's.
What I'll do is put them up in my Yahoo photo album and whatever ones you like the best, just ask and I'm more than happy to email them out to you.

Cheerio!
Amy :)

http://photos.yahoo.com/searaygal in the Dunnville album or if for some reason that doesn't work use:
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/searaygal/album?.dir=/aab6&.src=ph&.tok=phrxfhDB_XjIEwIB

[Marsh]

Wow, no wonder I couldn't see the tach. I barely clear the roll bar!