SCCA Ft. Myers Regional Tour

[J.C.]

A few pictures.

[J.C.]

Only four competitors attended from Canada.

[Tony Kloosterma]

how about some details??????

[J.C.]

8th place in STU
4th place in DS
2nd place in DS
1st place in EM

and somehow I have a bit of a headache this morning :cool:



P.S. Organisers were taking bets on if the green scirocco would make the 2nd day.

[soloZ]

mmmmmmmmmm new Z06s mmmmmmmmm Elise some nice cars and no pictures of the Green monster?




edit: thanks for the pictures

[Slowpoke]

Wow, that's pretty. Nice to see Elise's and Z06's being used for what they were built for. :D

There's some heavy duty money there, too!

At least I can afford the WHEELS that are on the Elise and the RX8. (SSR Competition, gun metal with polished lip.) ... well, at least I could afford them while they were on a Scratch & Dent sale. :o

[Tony Kloosterma]

names to go with those places?
Emod?
Is that what Andrew is in?

[gatherer]

Well Done in EMod there....

[13inches]

http://www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/SCCA-FtMyers-Saturday.pdf

What are all those numbers in brackets next to Andrew's times? ;) :D

[Tony Kloosterma]

scca board is hot on this event.
133 posts in 24 hours on the Course being protested due to it being TOO FAST???????

Need more info
spill the beans

Tony

[13inches]

scca board is hot on this event.
133 posts in 24 hours on the Course being protested due to it being TOO FAST???????

Need more info
spill the beans

Tony
That region is notorious for setting up VERY FAST courses. Like 3rd gear....everywhere!

The SCCA has a 70mph restriction in the rulebook (top speed for S and SP prep levels I believe).

Edit:

Courses must be tight enough so that cars run the entire course
in their lower gears. Speeds on straight stretches should not
normally exceed the low 60’s (mph) for the fastest Stock and
Street Prepared category cars. The fastest portions of the course
shall be those most remote from spectators and property. Turns
should not normally allow speeds in excess of 45 mph in unprepared cars. It must be remembered that sites themselves vary
and not all sites will safely support the speeds shown in these
guidelines (see Section 1.3). Conformity to these speed guidelines
does not preclude reasonable and prudent consideration of
the conditions encountered.

Apparently the Street Tire cars were exceeding the "low 60s" reccomendation....

:eek:

[Slowpoke]

Wow, a 47.8 cone included!

What was Andrew's strategy on the second day? Shortcut the course by driving over 4-6 cones? ;)

I couldn't find the STi results ... until I looked in BSP... :rolleyes:

[Tigger Gal]

Hi guys,

Whereabouts in Ft. Myers was the event run? My parents have a place in Ft. Myers so maybe next year Pat can run.

-Amy

[J.C.]

The airport at Leigh Acres on the outskirts of Ft. Myers. They also had a regional club event the weekend before. Our plan was to take in 7 autocross events in a 2 week vacation.

[Tigger Gal]

That's not too far from our place down there, definately something to keep in mind for 2007.
Thanks!!!

[tanney]

And people thought the protests at a couple of events here were bad...... This event has at least one protest launched due to EXCESS SPEEDS obtained....... which were well above what the rule book laid out.

One protest was for unsafe speed. All of Sunday's runs were disallowed...... 83mph in a stock car IS excessive!!!!!


Mmmmm, multiple protests at one event..........

[13inches]

Actually, the 83mph claim was not founded. The >45mph cornering speeds were, which is why the protest was upheld. Removing the 2nd day results was idiotic. The punishment does not fit the crime.

Its nice to see that someone is taking safety and adherence to the rulebook so seriously, since the organizers clearly weren't

[gatherer]

Safety is important ...but yes I agre that Punishment doesn't fit the crime... all the runs are now done .. disqualifying them doesn't make sense... but then what would be a better option in this case? personally I don't know...

[1morelap]

if the results stood, would the organization risk losing future insurance?

[J.C.]

if the results stood, would the organization risk losing future insurance?
No.

Was it a fast course? Yes
Was it dangerous? No

IMHO.

[J.C.]

Facility pictures to gauge site size and run off space.

[J.C.]

83mph in a stock car IS excessive!!!!!

The well driven Porsche GT3 on Kumho 710 was definately fast on the straights though I am skeptical about the 83mph figure knowing how fast we went. I would not group it in with a stock car category. It has a high PAX rating almost on par with SM & GP.

As for protests this is SCCA with 220+ competitors at this event and alot of these guys spending a fortune take it very seriously. If they think or feel someone is cheating they do not care who it is they will protest. Not a fun job :(

As for corner speeds the trend has been for them to be going back up to where they were pre-mid 80's. It will be interesting to see how the ruling turns out.

[1morelap]

No.

Was it a fast course? Yes
Was it dangerous? No

IMHO.
if the rules were exceeded, safe or not the insurance company has a way out, of course I'm thinking in the canadian world of insurance. :rolleyes:

Regardless, this is fun to watch, and I thought our club was the only one like this ;) :D

so what happenned in the mid 80's?

[J.C.]

But we are talking about the SCCA where they make there own rules. I have seen things against regs. that still pass.

[13inches]

So...what do YOU think? Here's an ES Miata on Azenis running the FT. Myers course. Top of second gear should be 100 km/h...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8144739449591930889

[AlienDNA]

So...what do YOU think? Here's an ES Miata on Azenis running the FT. Myers course. Top of second gear should be 100 km/h...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8144739449591930889

Well, they certainly put the "slalom" in "autoslalom". It should have been protested for being boring...

[bbqman]

I was there and ran DS on Hoosiers. I have run some pretty fast courses in my time...PMG, Corel centre are among some of my favorite memories. However, I can't remember the last time I had such high speeds sustained throughout a course.
This was far from autocross. We hardly used the brakes and my ITR was on the rev limiter in 2nd, through the slalom on the return run.

The protest was obvious as this course did not conform to a Solo II layout. It would be almost like if we were to hold a solo I event in a parking lot...... it just doesn't make sense.
Courses like this don't justify the car classifications either.

Either way, I can't think of a better way to start the year than being in Florida in February. I will be back next year for sure.
Jay and Andrew, thanks for your help throughout the weekend.
Andrew- how is your head?...and good luck today in Georgia!!

[andrew1984]

my head was fine but my stomach wasnt :rolleyes:


damn you perkins, damn you! :D