EBC brake pads?

[soloZ]

Ok I have checked there website cat and they show all three of there color pads are made for my car Green,red and yellow, now my question is is there anyone on here with experience with the various pads that might be able to give me of an idea on which one I will want to run in solosprints(solo1)

I have the green pads on my car right now but I haven't taken them on the track just autocrossing. So anything you guys have for info would be great.

[SE-R Racer]

Depends on the track.
Green and red might be OK at Shannonville, yellow at DDT and Blue at Dunnville...though the new course changes might make it a bit easier on brakes

[Chris91GT]

Depends on the track.
Green and red might be OK at Shannonville, yellow at DDT and Blue at Dunnville...though the new course changes might make it a bit easier on brakes

New course changes?

[SE-R Racer]

Yup :D

[ZOOMiata]

I have the greenstuff on my Miata. Great for autox, and good on the street. I wouldn't use them for extended periods on a track, because they seem a bit soft. Having said that, they are recommended for the track for light cars by EBC themselves.

Rob

[h-bomb]

Hawk Blue for Solo1.

[SE-R Racer]

There's an EBC blue too...for endurance racing

[soloZ]

Hawk Blue for Solo1.


I don't think Hawk makes them for my car or the EBC blues either.


And yes the greens have been good for autox, I even had them smoken a bit after a third run in a Prosolo for a final.

[ADAM]

hawke blues... i am with hanif on this one...

[Keith-02Accord]

Also, I've heard the Gransport GS3's are great on the track (close to the Hawk Blues from what I've been told), plus they are streetable.

I'm gonna to try them out this year.

[SE-R Racer]

You might have to do some seaching but there might be a compatable Hawk Blue but not listed for the Z24
For our 200SX with the NX2000 brakes there were no Hawk blues listed...however the pads from a '95 Eagle Talon are the same and Hawk does offer a blue compound pad for them...

[RRRex]

Don't like greens. Found stock Honda pads had better bite and feel. Tried yellows too but wasn't as impressed with those either. There's a Project u street track pad that I have on Elaine's car that I'm also impressed with and the Gransport GS3 since they are a streetable pad and are great since they take track abuse quite well and are easier to modulate than a blue - since blues bite so much stronger. For blues, don't street drive them. I once went through a set of blues and rotors after 3 weeks of street driving. They're too aggressive for street, but have very little wear on the track.

[Chris91GT]

I don't think Hawk makes them for my car or the EBC blues either.


And yes the greens have been good for autox, I even had them smoken a bit after a third run in a Prosolo for a final.

Ryan, check out the Hawk HT-10 part #s. Although, if they don't make a Blue for the Z they likely won't have anything up the ladder.

Also, the Satisfied Brakes GrandSport pads are a sponsor product... which is probably what I'm going to try out this season in conjuction with Hawk HT-15/10s on the 06 to see what sort of pads agree with the bias on the S197s.

[soloZ]

You might have to do some seaching but there might be a compatable Hawk Blue but not listed for the Z24
For our 200SX with the NX2000 brakes there were no Hawk blues listed...however the pads from a '95 Eagle Talon are the same and Hawk does offer a blue compound pad for them...

They don't have hawk blues for J-body brakes, unless I upgrade the brakes to a set of Corvette brakes

[nowcritical]

I killed a set of EBC pads in 30 Laps on my Miata at Shannonville a couple of years ago. I will never buy them again. I think they were a set of the reds.
I think they were the wrong pads for my cross drilled rotors as they disintegrated into a parmesan like material on my wheels. I have used EBC pads 2 times in my life with a very bad results. Shop carefully I think there are better pads on the market.

[Greg F]

I killed a set of EBC pads in 30 Laps on my Miata at Shannonville a couple of years ago. I will never buy them again. I think they were a set of the reds.
I think they were the wrong pads for my cross drilled rotors as they disintegrated into a parmesan like material on my wheels. I have used EBC pads 2 times in my life with a very bad results. Shop carefully I think there are better pads on the market.
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Just like any other manufacturer, EBC make different pads for different applications. However, since you're not certain which particular EBC pads you have experience with, it doesn't seem fair for you to say that all EBC pads are bad.

[Cheers!]

I ran the EBC yellows on the Dunnville track last year. I was out for the entire practice session for saturday and sunday. Chris atkins can confirm. He would wave me in and I would drive back to the staging area again.

THe yellows seemed like a very good pad. I can't compare to anything else. i ran HPS before. I however could not source the rear pads after 6 weeks of BS calling and JRP saying tommorrow tommorrow for 3 weeks.

I got the fronts and they refunded my money for the rear. At that piont it was the friday before the race day. SO i installed the yellows onto the front with new rotors. ZERO Fade with them and good bite, I was using ATE super blue. I however finished off a 1/2 worn set of Hawk HPS on the rears and turned the rotor BLUE. I could tell the rears were toast when I rev matched a downshift and noticed my braking was improving with the engine dragging the car down... sad... i know.

All I Can say is GOOD FCK'N luck trying to find the yellow stuff. I tried to source them through JRP. Then through the US Distributor, then the UK distributor. I've given up. The yellows for the front are pretty much garbage without the matching rears. They are the most diffifult product i've tried to source for peronal or buisness use.

FORGET EBC and stick with stuff you can get easily. I vote for Grandsport GS3 after riding in Jame's car.

oh and as per wear for the pads and rotors for the front. The fronts still looked brand new, but with the yellow paint on the backing plate melting off. The rotor looked brand new still. Good thing is that there is no black carbon dust to clean off your wheels.

[Slowpoke]

I've had more problems sourcing brake pads this winter than I ever imagined possible... Two Canadian vendors confirmed no availability... After months on back order I ended up calling Hawk myself on Thursday to find out that they had a full set in stock. It will be here Monday.

For anything EBC, give Paul Henshall a call paul AT hslrallysport DOT ca

or (905) 601-1519. It's worth a call if you really liked the pads.

[sjd]

Has anyone used Carbotech brake pads?

[thekid]

Has anyone used Carbotech brake pads?

Steve, I've run Carbotech pads on the MSP, they were alright, but I'm sticking to strictly Hawk stuff this year.

I carryboth Hawk and EBC stuff as well, but it can be tough to get some EBC lines.

[bbqman]

EBC has never claimed to be a supplier of race track worthy brake pads. When I first met them at a trade show in 2001, they claimed their automotive pad line was aimed at the tuner enthusiast. The greens are barely suitable for high speed autocross and the rest is just borderline for the track.

Stick with known products like Hawk, PFC and Gransport.

For those of you having sourcing problems , feel free to call me at Trac Racing. We are the Gransport distributor on the east coast and we are also the official sponsors of the 2006 CSC.
We have a racer program in place as we speak, including a Pre Sale on pads that will be hard to beat. I will also service many solo events in Quebec and Ontario in 2006.

[BAMF]

Currently I run Green Stuff with my Mazda TII and have found them to be an ok compromise. On the big mosport track they worked fine but on the tigher tracks like Mosport DDT, Dunnville and Shannoville they are only good for your typicall 5 lap sprint. After which they need a cooling period due to the fact the rotors have turned blue. The reason I stick with them is that I go thorugh (1) set per season, but my rotors have shown little to no wear after measuring them, plus the rotors have yet to warp. They cost about $90 for the front set, where by rotors are $200+ for the front set.

Should be noted that I don't change my pads before or after an event, I usually jump in my car and drive the 4-5 hours back to Windsor after an event. The pads recover very fast from abuse.

Also used them on a Audi Coupe GT with slotted rotors for a Winter Drivex rally. We had the same issue as Afirma with the pads being eaten, but we had the addition of vibration under heavy braking as well as the rotors turning bluel. Although in all fairness we slotted the rotors ourselves and had them cryongenically treated which may have warped them.

MLT

[Cheers!]

Currently I run Green Stuff with my Mazda TII and have found them to be an ok compromise. On the big mosport track they worked fine but on the tigher tracks like Mosport DDT, Dunnville and Shannoville they are only good for your typicall 5 lap sprint. After which they need a cooling period due to the fact the rotors have turned blue. The reason I stick with them is that I go thorugh (1) set per season, but my rotors have shown little to no wear after measuring them, plus the rotors have yet to warp. They cost about $90 for the front set, where by rotors are $200+ for the front set.

Should be noted that I don't change my pads before or after an event, I usually jump in my car and drive the 4-5 hours back to Windsor after an event. The pads recover very fast from abuse.

Also used them on a Audi Coupe GT with slotted rotors for a Winter Drivex rally. We had the same issue as Afirma with the pads being eaten, but we had the addition of vibration under heavy braking as well as the rotors turning bluel. Although in all fairness we slotted the rotors ourselves and had them cryongenically treated which may have warped them.

MLT

You can get brembo blanks from tirerack for 79.99 USD each for the front and 90 for the rear. If you don't want to pay USD, I picked up 4 new rotors from tiretrends.com for 400 bucks tax in, shipped. 2 week lead time. I've seen the light. It's grandsport Gs3 for me this year. There is nothing worse than flying through the track and having marginal brakes, there is no way one can confidently drive the car at the limit when you aren't certain you are going to make the turn in or not.

[Slowpoke]

Well, this is my point. If you have found pads that you like, that work for your car, it's hard to justify taking a chance (spending money) on another pad when what you have used is economical and it works for you.

I'm in a position where Ferodo DS3000's work fantastically on the track on my car, but cost a fortune. I've done an almost constant 1hr 45 minute stint on the DDT with these pads with no fade, beautiful trail braking control, damned good braking strength, and they're rotor-friendly... can't knock 'em a bit. Other people have criticized them as antiquated technology with a low co-efficient of friction, but they work wonderfully on my car.

The only reason that I'll be trying something else is because of their purchase price. $240 USD, or they tend to be ~ $400 up here. So if I can get some pads for 1/2 the price, I'll eventually be saving money.

But I gotta tell ya... I fully understand that the money I'm putting into GS3's this year may be wasted in the end. (My front rotors are $600 - $1200 a set :eek: ... Hawk Blue's are NOT for me.) If they eat my rotors faster than the DS3000's, I'm probably out of pocket by triple the price.

But, racing is the act of taking money and turning it into heat. (to paraphrase someone's tagline.) You have to pay to play.

He likes them, they work on his car... let's help him find some EBC's, instead of trashing 'em, eh? :D

[soloZ]

I ran the EBC yellows on the Dunnville track last year. I was out for the entire practice session for saturday and sunday. Chris atkins can confirm. He would wave me in and I would drive back to the staging area again.

THe yellows seemed like a very good pad. I can't compare to anything else. i ran HPS before. I however could not source the rear pads after 6 weeks of BS calling and JRP saying tommorrow tommorrow for 3 weeks.

I got the fronts and they refunded my money for the rear. At that piont it was the friday before the race day. SO i installed the yellows onto the front with new rotors. ZERO Fade with them and good bite, I was using ATE super blue. I however finished off a 1/2 worn set of Hawk HPS on the rears and turned the rotor BLUE. I could tell the rears were toast when I rev matched a downshift and noticed my braking was improving with the engine dragging the car down... sad... i know.

All I Can say is GOOD FCK'N luck trying to find the yellow stuff. I tried to source them through JRP. Then through the US Distributor, then the UK distributor. I've given up. The yellows for the front are pretty much garbage without the matching rears. They are the most diffifult product i've tried to source for peronal or buisness use.

FORGET EBC and stick with stuff you can get easily. I vote for Grandsport GS3 after riding in Jame's car.

oh and as per wear for the pads and rotors for the front. The fronts still looked brand new, but with the yellow paint on the backing plate melting off. The rotor looked brand new still. Good thing is that there is no black carbon dust to clean off your wheels.


From what I read there it sounds like the EBC pads worked, the green pads worked great for autocrossing and hard street driving

[neon boy]

Interesting read on all the different opinions on brake pads. The E.B.C Yellows are manufactured by Mintex Racing in England. The Raybestos Racing compound R is also very good and comes in your application. The R pads are also a good price.

Hope this helps you.

William Dickson
Williams Performance Friction

[soloZ]

Interesting read on all the different opinions on brake pads. The E.B.C Yellows are manufactured by Mintex Racing in England. The Raybestos Racing compound R is also very good and comes in your application. The R pads are also a good price.

Hope this helps you.

William Dickson
Williams Performance Friction

Do you have any information about those pads? where you can get them etc?

[neon boy]

Any Ray dealer can source the R pad for you. It will take about 2 weeks unless they have stock. The price should be about 125 dollars.

The Morse ceramic ex is compairable to the GS3 pad in performance and only costs about 80 dollars CDN.

I do have your application in stock in the F1 material but I honestly feel this is too much pad for what you are doing and they cost 400 dollars CDN

Ozzy. hope this helps

William Dickson
Williams Performance Friction
www.wpfri.com

[soloZ]

Any Ray dealer can source the R pad for you. It will take about 2 weeks unless they have stock. The price should be about 125 dollars.

The Morse ceramic ex is compairable to the GS3 pad in performance and only costs about 80 dollars CDN.

I do have your application in stock in the F1 material but I honestly feel this is too much pad for what you are doing and they cost 400 dollars CDN

Ozzy. hope this helps

William Dickson
Williams Performance Friction
www.wpfri.com

Kewl thanks Will, Ozzy is my stage name j/k it's Ryan

[Chris91GT]

Ryan,

I think Grisdale may be a Raybestos dealer. Let me know if you want me to check.

[3rd_Wish]

The Morse ceramic ex is compairable to the GS3 pad in performance and only costs about 80 dollars CDN

William Dickson
Williams Performance Friction
www.wpfri.com


Where can i get this pad?

[bbqman]

You can get the GS3 pads at Trac Racing. Just call me at 450 472 0676 ext 303