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10-12-2002, 10:06 PM
Just want to thank everyone involved in presenting the top gun shootout!!,great event!!.The weather opened up a whole new set of variables(ao32R's seem to be worth their weight in gold today)but thats what great competition is all about.
Even though RWD wasn't the fastest car to have,it may well have been the most fun!!.
So again thanks to all involved and the competitors that made it a GREAT day with lots of fun,congrats to the new shootout winner,great driving!!.
Time to put the nuclear butterscotch corolla to rest and get ready for the ice race season,only 3 months away!
10-13-2002, 10:49 AM
Yes--It was a wet but very good event--well organized and lots of fun. Front wheel drive and Yoks-032R's seemed to be the way to go. Tony in the Mini was fast as usual -any one know what tires he was running.
10-13-2002, 12:52 PM
I think he was running the tires from his Sentra (he he he)... Toyo's RA1, but I think they did a couple of changes through the day, as did most of us.
10-13-2002, 08:45 PM
I paid close attention,Tony started with toyo's up front with khumo ecstas rear,as the track dried switched to matching toyo's on the rear.Must be nice to show up with a choice of toyo's,khumo's AND sticker hoosier's(wonder why they weren'nt completly prepared and have a set of 32R's to try?)
Some day I hope to have a tire budget that allows me to pick a tire that works for the weather,temp,track surface etc etc etc.
10-14-2002, 07:58 AM
I talked to Andrew Kantor [owner of the cooper S and co-driver] and he said that was the advantage of having a tire store.[Wheel&TireZone] How did he do in the Mini ?
10-14-2002, 11:30 AM
Yes that was a great day for a motor car race. I really enjoyed the wet track I just wish I could have been a little quiker then that B2 car :/ . Well thanks to every one that came out and all the organisors, it was a well run event. I was on Toyo RA1's all morning with no tread except for the four groves and I was really surprised I didn't visit the grass.
10-14-2002, 11:51 AM
Nice runs all the same Ryan, fun day all in all.
Great day for factory LSD :)
Glad to hear you guys had a fun time. I had a blast organizing it and racing too. Andy's yellow ITR was a pretty choice weapon in the wet conditions given his fresh Yok's, awesome brake pads, and of course the general goodness of an ITR including a LSD. Pretty tough package to beat. If the Mini had a factory LSD, Tony would surely have whooped my sorry ass, but my ego is happy to accept any small victory it can :)
MANY thanks to everyone who helped put this event together, especially Robb (Mr. Solo 2 Director), Perry (Mr. Solo 1 Director), and Wes (Mr. Solo 2 assistant Director) as well as Wendy (Registrar), Debb and Sonia (BBQ Queens). Without the full-time efforts of these key people the event would never have happened.
I also want to thank the macho efforts of our full-time marshals, especially the three masochists out on the Solo 1 portion of the course, Rene Blackman, Andrew "Moose" DeLaCour and Turbo Keith Broughton. Thanks guys! Dave George, Caius Tenche, Hanif Premji, and George Dedopoulos all put in full days marshalling as well, though in slightly more luxurious positions in the paddock area or on the Solo 2 course. Nice work guys, we couldn't have got 5 runs in for everyone without your help!
And lets not forget our title sponsors, Bridgestone Firestone Racing Academy and Subaru of Canada, both of whom ponied up big time to help make this event extra special. Driving those Subbies was damn fun and watching Raymond take home the big BFRA prize was very cool too. Couldn't have been won by a nicer guy and obviously a very talented driver too! Such a shame he doesn't drive a Honda :p
It was also particularly cool to see many of our series sponsors out racing with us, including Andrew Kantor from 'Wheel & Tire Zone' in the red Mini, Russ Bond from 'Inside Track' in the Formula SAE car (and finalist), Blair Duguid from Winward Silks in his yellow Z06, and of course Chris Sorensen from 'Action Front Data Recovery' in his red Bimmer along with Nick the Action Front Prez in the paddocks cheering us all on. Tony McGrath of 'AutoCosmetics' fame was also duking it out in Andrew's Mini Cooper S, Taylor Barratt of 'Wired Motorsport' and 'Both Feet In' was out there in the rain with the top down on his red S2000, and last but certainly not least Jud Buchanan (another finalist) from Kumho Tires Canada whooped some butt in his Canso Evo muscle car from hell and also lined up the Subarus for us. Thanks to you all for your generous support!
Looking forward to next year (when my car may run!) already :)
10-14-2002, 05:51 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed my first intro to "Solo2" this weekend, despite well-worn V700s all around on the Mustang. Can you say... "understeer... OVERSTEER... understeer... OVERSTEER"
All in all a great entertaining day, if not exactly the most competitive combo in the wet. Although I need beat the #96 CSP Camaro. Ford vs Chevy... that's all that matters. hehe... uh, 67 Acadians whooping my ass excluded of course. :D
10-14-2002, 08:17 PM
I drove a 5.0Ltr once at the bracebridge kart track solo 2 event,all it did was understeer-oversteer-understeer-oversteer and it was dry!
Hey Ryan,my first run was on r-tires and I did find the grass,of course I was going backwards when I got to it!!.Luckily timing problems gave me another chance,then quickly changed back to my falkens!!
Lisa spun the car on her final run and brought the car back with plenty on grass/mud/crap stuck between the rim and tire,I wasn't too crazy about making that run without knowing if I was losing air!Things worked out I ran my best time-only 3 seconds behind Andy in the typeR
10-15-2002, 08:53 AM
Hi guys, think I've been a lurker long enough and would like to thanks everybody out there that make all the events happen for us. I haven't been out to that many events yet but hopefully I will get to know many of you better in the future!!
To all the organizers, sponsors, clubs that help make every event possible, thanks!!
For those that knows me, thanks for the tips and help over the year. I look forward to more friendly competition in the future.
It was really a great day of racing and an awesome final event. Great thks to all the HADA members, Haniff, Dave Pratte, Wes, Taylor... oh and the BBQ queens(those burger was great, I did my best run after eating one of those :D)!! Of course, Robb and Wendy Smith, Perry, Wes for making the event happen.
Also would like to say thanks to Steve Tong for showing me the way into sport and help though out the year. Yes, I am currently still a TACie.
Thank you everyone and I'll see you guys next time out!!
10-15-2002, 09:10 AM
Good job Ray, I told you you could still do it on your last run didn't I. Oh and here is that link you wanted http://www.sweetiegirlracing.com/Forum.html
Let us all know when your going for your lapping day, I would like to come and watch for a bit.
10-15-2002, 06:22 PM
Congratulations Raymond, nice driving in the shootout. Are you sure you have never driven a Subaru before?
I too would like to thank everyone involved with putting the shootout together. Especially the HADA guys, who gave up competeing, to spend the day marshalling in the rain.
10-15-2002, 07:27 PM
I also wanted to thank everyone who helped put this event together. Dave, Hanif, Wes and the whole HADA crew; Robb, Perry, Nick, Preet and Brett (at BFRA), Judd (Subaru Canada), and everyone else that volunteered their time and effort to make it happen, Cheers!
Also, a hearty congrats to Ray H. for driving his
a#@ off on Saturday. I guess that means it does take a Miata driver to get the job done!
Steve (wet oversteer) Tong:D
10-15-2002, 07:32 PM
LOl "Oversteer Tong"
Have the video...looks great on the big screen, especially those white rims...Didn't anyone tell you, you're not supposed to wear white "shoes" after Labour Day!!"
10-22-2002, 12:47 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ice/solo racer
[B]I paid close attention,Tony started with toyo's up front with khumo ecstas rear,as the track dried switched to matching toyo's on the rear.Must be nice to show up with a choice of toyo's,khumo's AND sticker hoosier's(wonder why they weren'nt completly prepared and have a set of 32R's to try?)
Actually there is a funny story about all those tires...They were'nt really "matching"....
I grabbed 4 rain tires from my Sentra Series car- Toyos- to use if it was wet. Then an extra shaved Toyo (all thats left), just in case I cut a tire at the event. 3 out of the 4 rain tires were on rims that fit on a Sentra and a Mini-100 mm. - 8 hole style. The 4th rain was on a normal 4 hole rim that fits Sentras only- 114.3 mm size. Yours truly had forgotten to check that all the rain tires were indeed mounted on 8 hole rims- DOH!
So only 3 out of the 4 rain tires would bolt onto the Mini. Fortunately Andrew had suggested we take along the used 17" Kumho ecstas " just in case". In case of what I still dont know- he must be psychic!. (We had Hoosiers for the dry- on rims that fit the car!). Well as it turned out we had to run 2 rain 15" Toyos on the front and 2 well-worn 17" Kumhos on the back because that is all that would fit on the car for those conditions. Can you say snap oversteer? Andrew sure can...On his first run he did a complete 360 degree spin, with the traction control on! He got his balance back and continued on with his run hardly missing a beat!
A couple of competitors came up to me and asked if this was really the "hot setup" for the rain. I just had to laugh as I explained the reality of the predicament.
After lunch , when the standing water dispersed and the track started drying a bit, we put 2 Toyos on at the back - one rain tire and the spare tire shaved to (1/32"). Now the car was dynamite on left hand corners but still very loose on right handers. Still better than with the Kumhos though.
Try as we might we werent quite fast enough to beat the PAX and Dave (I'll take the rerun) Pratte. 8^P
So for next year's event I'm getting a bigger brain. 8-)
Nice work, Tony! :)
I like reruns. Reruns are good. So whoever it was that went on that bonzai run ahead of me and literally wiped out half the cones on the road course during what was suppose to be my last run of the day, thank you :) I had nothing to lose on the rerun so I just treated that lovely ITR like it was somebody elses car! Hehehe...thanks Andy!
I'm looking forward to next year's Shoot-Out already. Can you WRX Sti???
10-22-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Dave
Nice work, Tony! :)
I like reruns. Reruns are good. So whoever it was that went on that bonzai run ahead of me and literally wiped out half the cones on the road course during what was suppose to be my last run of the day, thank you :)
Your's was an excellent run Dave, it's the fact that Blair Duguid granted the rerun that is the questionable point. In a Solo 2 event if you pass a downed pylon and then immediately stop, you get a rerun. If you keep going, then the run stands. Blair obviously wasnt familiar with the rulebook in that area. The fact that they slotted you back in line without leaving 5 cars inbetween your last run and your rerun was another technical infraction.
I felt sorry for Alec Chavardian though, as he would have been the B group driver to get into the final 6 had your rerun not happened. As it was he missed out by .001 sec. - in an automatic Corolla, that was impressive!!
Let's hope next year is dry and fast :p
Tony, thanks for pointing out those errors. I actually had no idea about the downed cone rule requiring me to come to a complete stop on the course. That seems a bit dangerous to me. Makes more sense to finish the run without bringing the event to a halt, but maybe there's a reason for that rule I don't understand. Regardless, I don't think the downed cones slowed me down much on my last run, so I probably should have parked it, but I figured it would be fun to have another go at the course since I assumed I was owed a proper run at it with all the cones in position. But hey, if anyone should have known the rules I should have, given my role as Organizer, so no excuses. If I organize the event again next year, I'll definitely keep the rules infractions you've pointed out in mind. No event is perfect, but we can always try harder and do better.
Speaking of which, maybe we should consider a Supplemental Regulation for the Shoot-Out next year -- especially if we run at the DDT again and have multiple fast moving cars on the track -- stating that you should not come to a stop on the course if you see a downed cone (given the potential safety harzard this represents). Rather, you should complete your run and report the downed cone to timing (they probably know about it already) and you'll get a rerun assuming the downed cone is confirmed. All we'd need to do is make this rule clear at the driver's meeting and everything should be golden.
Feel bad for Alec? I have a hard time feeling bad for the Solo 1 Champ...he gets to drive an ITR whenever he wants AND he's getting a big trophy this year! Lucky bastard :p And have you seen his fiance? She's a hottie! :cool: But you're so right about his effort being damn impressive in that auto tranny Corolla he'd never competed in before. He deserved a spot in the finals, for sure. We don't call him the Rainman for nothin'...
Warm and dry, I like the sounds of that for next year!
Hmmmm, like Dave I had a downed cone on a run and didn't stop for it as it wasn't really slowing me down. I reported it after the run and got a 2 second penalty carried over to my re-run (timing issues) as they thought it was my cone.
So Dave got a re-run, I got a 2 second penalty, whine whine;-)
ha! sorry about your luck, Blur :) Are you sure you didn't knock down a cone of your own (that you weren't aware of?) before you encountered the downed cone you reported? I'm hoping that's actually what happened, rather than you just being outright screwed. Human error is a wonderful thing...and here I thought the event went perfectly until you guys gang up on me and burst my lovely little bubble :o
we should come up with a series...that you have to hit as many cones as possible for points...kinda like car bowling
this board has been so dead lately....
hey honda weasels.......start up some controversy
hmmm..maybe another v8 vs import thread is needed :)
I hit one on purpose, the one on the most Eastern corner of the DDT, just so I wouldn't be off course and not get a time.
I even hit it with the wrong side of the car.
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