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Old 12-14-2017, 03:10 PM
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Hi everyone, I'm Jim, just registered here and have always wanted to get into road racing. I've got a small amount of experience in karting, but have been away from any racing for quite a while now, and would like to make some plans to get into road racing in the next couple of years. I'm mainly curious what classes are the most popular, as is like to have plenty of competitors to race with.

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Old 12-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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Old 12-14-2017, 03:55 PM
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GT Sprints is the best bang for your buck !!!
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:08 PM
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:18 PM
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Welcome to the board, I have raced with CASC-OR for a few years now and it is great fun!

At the year end race workshop in November, the entries by class were published.

The powerpoint can be found at: http://www.casc.on.ca/sites/default/...n_workshop.pdf

As David said above, GT sprints (and Formula Libre) continue to be the larger entered classes. This is because of the fact that these are a catch all class for all closed wheel (GT Sprints) and open wheel cars (Libre) assuming they meet the safety requirements. GT challenge runs a similar ruleset to sprints but does require some additional planning and team effort as these are more of an endurance race style.

If you are not in a rush to race this year (you mentioned in the next couple of years you want to run) I would recommend coming out to some of the events this year and talk to us racers to find out some of the different things to be aware of. Everyone is super friendly and willing to share their experiences with you.

Things to keep in mind when you are doing your research is:

- how fast you want to go
- how much money you want to spend initially (i.e. car purchase)
- how much you want to spend on consumables per weekend

The general rule is, the faster cars cost more initially and on consumables per weekend.

If you have any questions, just ask away. I am sure everyone here is dying to talk motorsports over the cold winter.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:37 PM
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Welcome!

I agree that gt sprints is probably the best place to start. I have run GT5 (the slowest gt sprints class) since 2009 and have enjoyed racing against newcomers and seeing them move up through the ranks over the years. If you are not going to race in the 2018 season you should definitely come by the track to observe and chat with racers. Maybe crew for a team running a 2 or 3 hour gt challenge race, you will learn a lot!
I would suggest buying a car that is proven as a race car or at least time attack and has a record of being competitive and reliable.

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Old 12-14-2017, 08:31 PM
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http://formula1600.com/

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THIS is the best bang for the buck in regional road racing.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:15 PM
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Welcome!!!! Older post from Ray but contact him directly about qualifying for a licence.

http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=33900
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:37 PM
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http://formula1600.com/

Need more info? PM me and I will answer any and all questions you may have.

THIS is the best bang for the buck in regional road racing.
F1600 is what I really wanted to do back when I was karting, so it's definitely at the top of my list. another class that interests me a lot, but isn't in ontario is spec miata like they run south of the border. it looks like they have huge car counts and close racing for a comparatively low cost. Has there ever been any discussion of a spec miata group in ontario?
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:36 AM
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Jimmer,

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F1600 is what I really wanted to do back when I was karting, so it's definitely at the top of my list. another class that interests me a lot, but isn't in ontario is spec miata like they run south of the border. it looks like they have huge car counts and close racing for a comparatively low cost. Has there ever been any discussion of a spec miata group in ontario?
LOL! I asked this exact question a few years ago and I was not met with a very positive response. They have Spec Miata out in Eastern and Western Canada. Yet in the most obvious place to have it in Canada, that being Ontario, we don't. I got told that I should get some friends together and build cars and run them in the appropriate GT Sprints category and if it caught on they would let us have our own group.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:08 PM
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but isn't in ontario is spec miata like they run south of the border
I believe the series in Eastern Canada folded. My brother and I bought one of the front running spec miatas from Nova Scotia and we race it in GT sprints and GT challenge. In spec miata form it was not competitive in GT5 but we have modified it to be a front running GT5 car. It won the GT5 GT challenge championship and did well in a part season of GT sprints. The changes we made are easily reversible so that it could be converted back to spec miata legal form in a few hours.

The changes were some aero work and a twin disc clutch. Besides changing the diff fluid every weekend there is very little maintenance work required on these cars.

https://949racing.com/miata-twin-disc-clutch.aspx

A simpler way to be GT5 competitive with a spec miata would be to buy a second generation NB miata with a 1.8 engine but they seem to be double the price of the earlier NA 1.6 models.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:57 PM
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Re: new here, wondering what are the most popular classes in CASC-OR

>>Has there ever been any discussion of a spec miata group in ontario? <<

A Miata can run in GT Sprints (GT5 ?) as long as it meets the CASC rules, as for a separate class the weekends are already very full with the current class structure so I doubt another class could be included without someone else losing out.

Jim, I wish you good luck and hope to see you out on the track in the near future, you will definitely have a great time indeed !!!
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:52 AM
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The main problem we have with "spec" anything in Ontario, is getting Volunteers to ensure the vehicles are really "spec". We currently having 2 classes(with sub-classes within)
F1200 and F1600.) As soon as you say "spec" you open the door to people that don't mind "cheating" in an innovative fashion. For example, I'l "bet" a considerably under-weight forged crankshaft does make a difference in a Kent powered F1600. Is it worth the expense
to win with an illegal engine ? I gues it depends if you want to sleep at night.
If I was paid for my tech inspection time I wouldn't mind the extra hours, but as a "volunteer" I'm at my limits.

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