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Old 12-05-2016, 03:10 PM
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Tires for 2017

Just wondering what the top performing tires were this year? My Dunlop ZII's are getting old so I'll need new rubber for 2017.
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:01 PM
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Just wondering what the top performing tires were this year? My Dunlop ZII's are getting old so I'll need new rubber for 2017.
Street tires, Kelly? No changes from 2016 tire recommendations that I know of, except the introduction of the Toyo R888-R with the same medium GGG compound used in the R888 and RA1.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:37 AM
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The Bridgestone RE71R has the most grip and was very popular among the faster competitors.
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Old 12-06-2016, 12:21 PM
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Yes, street tires. 200 tread wear. Similar to the ZII's. Can drive to track and take part in lapping, hpde's etc.
I have also heard the RE71R's are popular, but they don't come in the size I'm looking for. However the RE11's do. They have very good reviews on TR.
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Old 12-06-2016, 02:28 PM
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RE11's or RE11A's won't have the grip that any of the newer tires have, but they're still decent.

I would look at the ZII SS, they're apparently all the good parts of the original ZII but slightly better across the board. They aren't as fast as the RE71R, but are still good.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:22 AM
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Hey Kelly - I'm most likely going with the RE11's once my Michelins are done... won't set FTD (as others have pointed out) but seem to take lapping well in heavier cars.

... also, you can get them (or any Michelin / Bridgestone) special ordered in through Costco.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:42 AM
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RE71Rs and BFG Rival Ss seem to be the fastest "200"treadwear tires but I don't think they have much longevity on the track at least for heavy cars, as they are designed as autocross tires. Maybe Carsten can comment .
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:44 AM
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Forgot to mention it above Kelly... I'd also look at the AD08R's, they're a 180TW so they get left out of most street tire discussions for classes that require 200, but they're still a good option.

Similar grip (on my car at least) to an RS3 v2, but they wear WAY better.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:43 AM
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Ya I do have to consider the weight of the car so need tires that are appropriate. Didn't know Costco sells Bridgestone! I usually go to Tires23. Will have to check prices. RE11's sounding good so far for my purposes and come in the size I need. (275/40/18). My currents ZII's are 275/35/18, great on track but with the lowered suspension just a bit too low on the street. Speed bumps and potholes are a challenge!
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Ya I do have to consider the weight of the car so need tires that are appropriate. Didn't know Costco sells Bridgestone! I usually go to Tires23. Will have to check prices. RE11's sounding good so far for my purposes and come in the size I need. (275/40/18). My currents ZII's are 275/35/18, great on track but with the lowered suspension just a bit too low on the street. Speed bumps and potholes are a challenge!
Rival S's bud. No question.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:28 PM
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Re: Tires for 2017

I had a set of Rivals, but not the Rival S. Then I bought the Dunlop ZII. Based on this experience, I am going back to Rivals for 2017, this time the S version.. The Dunlops worked OK, but I felt more confident on the Rivals.
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The S's are night and day ahead Gary. Track, autox, whatever. I doubt you'll be dissapointed.

Life's too short and racing is too expensive to do it on uncompetitive tires.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:23 PM
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If you are looking for the Mustang, you might consider Michelin Super Sports which are never going to win you anything but will last a long time and be good in the wet.

If you want to spend more money, try Pilot Sport Cup 2s. Faster than the Super Sports but at a 180 treadwear rating they still aren't as fast as the 200 treadwear RE71Rs or Rival Ss. OTOH, I suspect they will last longer than Yokohamas. (Before Martin or Eric chime in, Kelly might be driving a Mustang which doesn't have the power to provide enough wheel spin to wear out the Sport Cup 2s that quickly )
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If you are looking for the Mustang, you might consider Michelin Super Sports which are never going to win you anything but will last a long time and be good in the wet.

If you want to spend more money, try Pilot Sport Cup 2s. Faster than the Super Sports but at a 180 treadwear rating they still aren't as fast as the 200 treadwear RE71Rs or Rival Ss. OTOH, I suspect they will last longer than Yokohamas. (Before Martin or Eric chime in, Kelly might be driving a Mustang which doesn't have the power to provide enough wheel spin to wear out the Sport Cup 2s that quickly )
Super Sports on the list. Don't really like the 300 TW rating though. Sport Cup 2's don't have my size. As for wheel spin, no prob, lots there if that's what I want, right foot controls how much! (Or are you referring to the V6 Mustang I may have access to? - That would change things.)
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:32 PM
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I have 2016 experience on both the Michelin Super Sports and the Yokohama AD08Rs.

I ran the Super Sports on my C6 Corvette GS in 18's / 19's for lapping at Mosport DDT, GP, SMP and TMP. The car is stock except for track brake pads. I wanted a top performing street tire that would handle 20 minute lapping sessions without coming apart and of course last forever.

I've put 8,000 k on the tires, in excess of 200 laps and they are at 6/32". Like others have said, they are not the fastest tire but with the traction system completely turned off the car loves being thrown around and hung out > the tire is extremely predictable and easy to get back in line. I'd call the Super Sport a great street tire that can handle serious track thrashing without wearing quickly.

I also ran the Yokohama AD08R on my '67 Acadian in 18's / 19's for the Canadian Track Driving Adventure (aka Ontario 1500). The car is somewhat modified. I wanted a great tire for autocross and tire attack that met their tire rule ... and I could also safely drive on the street as I wanted to drive my car from track to track.

Although I used 2 set of AD08R's for the CTDA, I could have completed the event on one set. From the get go I was impressed with this tire's stick but more importantly how progressive it was both at and beyond the traction limit. My car could best be described as very analog, in that you drive it 100% by your senses > feel being the major one. The AD08R's feedback suited this perfectly allowing me to drive smooth on the track, yet as loose as I dared to on the autocrosses. The bonus was that it provided the same confidence in the wet and in the dry.

I would consider the AD08R a great 180 TW competition tire - wet or dry - that is streetable.

My opinions based on my experiences.

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